From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should invisible imply intangible? Date: 16 Mar 2002 12:29:59 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <878z8tmbpk.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <200202232019.g1NKJoG14638@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202250510.g1P5A3714156@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200202262013.g1QKDef16683@aztec.santafe.edu> <200203010130.g211UDG05790@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200203031440.g23EeN200619@aztec.santafe.edu> <200203031711.g23HBI623254@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200203042341.g24NfiH00596@aztec.santafe.edu> <200203052158.g25Lw7A01243@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200203052304.g25N4pI03908@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200203092003.g29K3b303868@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200203092237.g29MbGf29464@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200203102132.g2ALWPK04119@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200203102202.g2AM26q06798@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200203111906.g2BJ6BY04591@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200203121756.g2CHuG514941@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200203131058.g2DAwQh05428@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200203150341.g2F3flZ06455@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200203160022.g2G0MJ204725@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200203160128.g2G1Spn04980@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1016249651 6408 127.0.0.1 (16 Mar 2002 03:34:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup), "Stefan Monnier" , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16m4xP-0001fG-00 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 04:34:11 +0100 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16m50a-00009q-00 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 04:37:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16m4wP-0005rn-00; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:33:09 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp02.fields.gol.com ([203.216.5.132]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16m4uW-0004os-00; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:31:12 -0500 Original-Received: from tc-2-235.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.25.235] helo=tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp) by smtp02.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 16m4uU-0004Au-00; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 12:31:11 +0900 Original-Received: by tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 629F6302E; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 12:29:59 +0900 (JST) Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <200203160128.g2G1Spn04980@rum.cs.yale.edu> Original-Lines: 21 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:1955 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:1955 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > This was recently brought up when discussing code that adds a "=B6" at > end of paragraphs (using a before-string property): the current code > always displays the cursor just after this string, which looks very odd > since typed text will be inserted before the string. I agree strongly, I absolutely hate the way it currently works -- it's basically just _wrong_ for inserted text to appear somewhere far away from the cursor like that. I looked at fixit it a while ago (this issue comes periodically in different contexts, which seems like a pretty good clue that it's really a problem), and unfortunately, it didn't seem entirely trivial to implement. By the time the code decides where to place the cursor, information about where everything came from is gone, so additional info has to be propagated through parts of the redisplay mechanism. -Miles --=20 "Most attacks seem to take place at night, during a rainstorm, uphill, where four map sheets join." -- Anon. British Officer in WW I _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel