From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new online publishing tool for Texinfo documents. Date: 24 Nov 2003 09:11:46 +0000 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <878ym6dtbh.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> References: <200311222118.hAMLI3v07843@f7.net> <87r800dr09.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <87znemp5a0.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069674681 8807 80.91.224.253 (24 Nov 2003 11:51:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: epameinondas@gmx.de, bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 24 12:51:17 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOFFN-0004FQ-00 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:51:17 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOFFN-0001DO-00 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:51:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AOGBg-0005Os-LG for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:51:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AOFzp-0006ND-SL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:39:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AOFyB-0005wi-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:38:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.34.135.17] (helo=tf1.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AOFxg-0005qp-41 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:37:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.74.202.254] (helo=kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by tf1.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOF0H-0002dF-00; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:35:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk ident=nferrier) by kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOClf-0005Hq-00; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:12:27 +0000 Original-To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <87znemp5a0.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Original-Lines: 41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18076 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18076 Juri Linkov writes: > >> JavaScript is the only standard way to do browser-side programming that > >> I know of. It may turn out that only a small subset of JavaScript is > >> actually needed for the job, that wouldn't be as painful to add to Emacs > >> and Lynx as the whole huge mess. > > > > Whatever, as you say, because Emacs is so adaptable we can achieve > > something. It's just "what thing" which is important. > > JavaScript is mostly useful for web applications supposed to run in > mainstream browsers. But for such browsers HTML files is already > good enough solution. What is rather needed is to improve Emacs > Info browser. Just to be clear. Bob Chassell and I are proposing a new system for making Texinfo documentation available over the web. It's not a replacement for Emacs Info mode. But it is intended that users of Emacs web browsers will be able to view the HTML produced by the new system. >Currently I see at least three ways to do it: > > 1. continue to hack existing info.el to overcome existing limitations > of Info format; > 2. extend existing Web browser implemented in Emacs for better support > of Info HTML navigation; > 3. try to use an additional XML format in Emacs; Personally, I see absolutely nothing wrong with current Emacs Info. I use it an awfull lot (I use Texinfo for all my word processing tasks and info mode for viewing all the documentation I have to write as part of my work) as well as using Info from the console. Right now, I almost never read HTML Info documents. I hope that the new system Bob and I are talking about will change that a bit. Nic