From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexander Pohoyda Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils Date: 11 Oct 2004 01:50:22 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <878yaeuo8x.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> References: <1096006177.432792.29828.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> <1096014084.739640.30529.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> <200410031040.i93Ae1YS000609@oak.pohoyda.family> <87d5zvwmq9.fsf_-_@oak.pohoyda.family> <87r7o8yf4g.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097452257 8110 80.91.229.6 (10 Oct 2004 23:50:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 11 01:50:49 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CGnSi-0007Pd-00 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:50:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CGnZc-0003Zi-Uj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:57:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CGnZV-0003ZQ-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CGnZU-0003ZE-TR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CGnZU-0003ZB-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:57:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CGnSM-0006ei-QK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:50:27 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 13937 invoked by uid 65534); 10 Oct 2004 23:50:25 -0000 Original-Received: from p5084375B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO www2.gmx.net) (80.132.55.91) by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 11 Oct 2004 01:50:25 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14602519 Original-Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.gmx.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9ANoNPE001260; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:50:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Original-Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9ANoNKh001257; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:50:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.pohoyda.family: apog set sender to alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28205 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28205 Richard Stallman writes: > > Are you saying you have written files with the same names as certain > > files in Gnus? > > Exactly! Once again, I propose that we move general-purpose MIME > functions out of lisp/gnus into lisp/mail/mime directory. > > I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean moving the existing gnus > code, as now found in lisp/gnus/rfc*.el? Or have you written > completely different code to do the same jobs? I don't mean moving existing Gnus code (as it is now), because I don't like that rfc*.el files depend on mm-*.el files. Once we break this dependency, we could move only rfc*.el files (what's what I target right now). Meanwhile, I have re-implemented about 20 rfc* functions because I didn't like their dependency on mm-* code. My implementation is also cleaner in a way that it uses even more basic general-purpose mail functions which I will try to put into mail-utils.el file. So, in fact, I already have a completely mm-* independent implementation, but it may be missing some function used by Gnus, so I don't ask you to take my files either. What I'm going to do now is to remove mm-* dependency from lisp/gnus/rfc*.el files and submit a patch here. If it is accepted and commited, we move lisp/gnus/rfc*.el files into lisp/mail/ directory and I can continue with Rmail patches. -- Alexander Pohoyda PGP Key fingerprint: 7F C9 CC 5A 75 CD 89 72 15 54 5F 62 20 23 C6 44