From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 03:00:04 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <878xuwwdp4.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200512072349.jB7Nn5fB031485@brains.moreideas.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134007445 7193 80.91.229.2 (8 Dec 2005 02:04:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 02:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 08 03:04:05 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkB80-00065z-EY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 03:03:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkB8G-00036T-A9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:03:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkB82-00035M-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkB80-000342-OT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkB80-00033y-LQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:03:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.111] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EkB8w-0006vN-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:04:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-37-157-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.37.157]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ED81ADB for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 04:03:23 +0200 (EET) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <200512072349.jB7Nn5fB031485@brains.moreideas.ca> (Peter Whaite's message of "Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:49:05 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47192 Archived-At: >> Thanks, but are there really state buttons that are not next to options? Is >> not both yours and mine sentence wrong then? Or can you give an example, >> please? > > At the top of every customize group page there is a global state button > that can be used to set or save all the options that have been changed > in the page, e.g. > > /- Emacs group: ---------------------------------------------------------\ > State: visible group members are all at standard settings. > Customization of the One True Editor. > See also Manual. > > No big deal, though I don't think its necessary to say 'next to' as the > association between the State button and the option is obvious enough. I think more obvious buttons for beginners to press are global state buttons at the top of every customize group page, not the State button (which is not quite a button, but rather a popup menu). What I mean are the following buttons: Operate on everything in this buffer: [Set for Current Session] [Save for Future Sessions] [Reset] [Reset to Saved Erase Customization] [Finish] A sentence that mentions these global state buttons would be better, IMO. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/