From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: Should be able to select text in splash screen] Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:34 -0400 Message-ID: <878xlgu889.fsf@furball.mit.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156258835 3667 80.91.229.2 (22 Aug 2006 15:00:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 22 17:00:31 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFXjh-0006rw-WA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:00:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFXjh-0002rY-Ho for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:00:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFXj7-0002LO-OV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFXj7-0002Kq-8I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [18.72.1.2] (helo=south-station-annex.mit.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GFXqj-0000hw-SG; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:07:30 -0400 Original-Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by south-station-annex.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id k7MExZD4007002; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing-legacy.mit.edu (OUTGOING-LEGACY.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.104]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id k7MExYjA014624; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from furball.mit.edu (SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-NINETY-NINE.MIT.EDU [18.95.6.144]) ) by outgoing-legacy.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id k7MExVgk013468; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from cyd by furball.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GFXj4-0000hk-00; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:34 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:42:24 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 1.217 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58717 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > From: "Drew Adams" > Subject: Should be able to select text in splash screen > > Users should be able to select text in the splash screen displayed > using Help > About Emacs. Lots of graphical programs display splash screens containing text that cannot be selected. New users *won't* expect to be able to interact with the text. New users will also know that they can find out version numbers from a menu item called "About Emacs", and indeed we have such a menu item. Besides, it would be extremely annoying if the splash screen doesn't go away when you press any key. The one change I would make to the splash screen is to add some text saying something like "Press any key to continue". Many graphical programs take a long time to start up, and display splash screens while they are starting up; a particularly confused user might think he has to wait for the splash screen to disappear by itself before editing can commence. *** emacs/lisp/startup.el.~1.410.~ 2006-07-24 00:18:47.000000000 -0400 --- emacs/lisp/startup.el 2006-08-22 10:54:21.000000000 -0400 *************** *** 1115,1121 **** (defvar fancy-splash-text '((:face variable-pitch "You can do basic editing with the menu bar and scroll bar \ ! using the mouse.\n\n" :face (variable-pitch :weight bold) "Important Help menu items:\n" :face variable-pitch --- 1115,1121 ---- (defvar fancy-splash-text '((:face variable-pitch "You can do basic editing with the menu bar and scroll bar \ ! using the mouse.\nPress any key to begin editing.\n\n" :face (variable-pitch :weight bold) "Important Help menu items:\n" :face variable-pitch *************** *** 1151,1157 **** More Manuals / Ordering Manuals Buying printed manuals from the FSF\n") (:face variable-pitch "You can do basic editing with the menu bar and scroll bar \ ! using the mouse.\n\n" :face (variable-pitch :weight bold) "Useful File menu items:\n" :face variable-pitch "\ --- 1151,1157 ---- More Manuals / Ordering Manuals Buying printed manuals from the FSF\n") (:face variable-pitch "You can do basic editing with the menu bar and scroll bar \ ! using the mouse.\nPress any key to begin editing.\n\n" :face (variable-pitch :weight bold) "Useful File menu items:\n" :face variable-pitch "\ *************** *** 1443,1448 **** --- 1443,1449 ---- (progn (insert "\ You can do basic editing with the menu bar and scroll bar using the mouse. + Press any key to begin editing. Useful File menu items: Exit Emacs (or type Control-x followed by Control-c)