From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hansen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is OpenUsability something for Emacs? Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:22:39 +0200 Organization: disorganized Message-ID: <878xlgmmvk.fsf@robotron.kosmorama> References: <44E72B0F.8060306@student.lu.se> <44E81F63.8000105@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156285439 1371 80.91.229.2 (22 Aug 2006 22:23:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 23 00:23:57 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFeeu-0000c8-SN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:23:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFeeu-0004UU-48 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFeeh-0004UP-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:23:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFeef-0004UD-8M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:23:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFeef-0004UA-3I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:23:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GFemL-0006N9-Oe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:31:26 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GFeeT-0000XI-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:23:17 +0200 Original-Received: from e178031002.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.31.2]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:23:17 +0200 Original-Received: from david.hansen by e178031002.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:23:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178031002.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TmIZ4kJHE7b4Bf/L8Hjw8CUjVAU= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58751 Archived-At: On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:37:55 +0200 Lennart Borgman wrote: > Richard Stallman wrote: >> There is a web site for usability, >> http://openusability.org/, which welcomes open source >> projects. >> >> We don't want to refer to any GNU software as "open source", >> or encourage others to do so. Could we ask for help thru this site >> without doing so? >> > I do not know. I just stambled on the site and thought that > it was a good idea. I think I was a bit triggered. Just a > week ago I installed Ubuntu GNU/Linux to give it a try > again. Ubuntu uses GNOME as its default desktop. To my > surprise I could not use the keyboard to navigate the "start > menu". I had no mouse attached to that computer ... Then probably gnome is not the best "desktop" for you anyway. Try some keyboard friendly Window Manager (e.g. ratpoison, ion or, if you prefer "classic" management of windows, fvwm). There are lots of free window managers available. David