From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Olson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: remember(-diary).el Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:23 -0500 Message-ID: <878x4cegfg.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> References: <4743DD30.4010504@gmx.at> <4743EFE7.7080907@gmx.at> <8763zki775.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> <87lk8fh8wu.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> <66bq9bmu3b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877ijzfko3.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0412090634==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196643949 15877 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2007 01:05:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 02:05:56 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iyzkx-0001Rr-6g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:05:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyzkg-00041x-9m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyzkd-00041d-3M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyzkb-00040L-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyzkb-000407-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:33 -0500 Original-Received: from deleuze.hcoop.net ([69.90.123.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IyzkW-0004lG-Ry; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:28 -0500 Original-Received: from host-215-8.inlacol.clients.pavlovmedia.com ([66.253.215.8] helo=grepfind.mwolson.org ident=mwolson) by deleuze.hcoop.net with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IyzkV-0006UC-Ue; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mwolson by grepfind.mwolson.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IyzkT-0003OQ-AX; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:25 -0500 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEU1QytIVTlZY0dqc1N6 hGGJl3qZpZCtuKXsjxzFAAACW0lEQVR42l2UXXrqIBCGk67Aoe29Ac4CTPDcGwZ73wLdQDOuQLP9 8wHG9hT1Mc6bb/5jp7Xed92TVrqeCYfKRVc+XdfDbqbJ8TixG1UDu2a3xkf2H+z+A6Qn7Xk71AA8 kdJmZg4xpcTshgr2JQSurAswhwDFYQN9r4yxx1BIQqBTBbvqahw9hxRSLOBdFVA89TTOvgSoMaLf ABTWOg5Z8lLRNyD7x4WSVHU1DZurThn2HI9Oa561JhTSDUWxq64YqRlmrcdhA73y3rmJY1okotDT NzDO2XNGZPnS7A4b6NQ8foQFN2eJmEBR7Du1Q/DRh7R4O50BrGmu0F8i49Iya+ScvtDNqkADB8zD pwU9wTu9c8msdNYOO0JvYYyREd9xBOh7zSNc2WMZUYzIDHOpU0Kxe5o9o0eccsr5mNLcwHhC8DoM SQkJ5wbUxAdlbDELEpDbclc8sT2gV2HJIrj/si7hDgzPpY4sqxTV+pWkgt7EGesDIFWUnGuK7pkn erZoieCVZPGcG3jCJimLwS7IVZY4R3mvoNfzoCfOF0mIG1nna+TadAxzgF5u0b3JTaxcmZtCF1dn WSOv63oNl4U3BQCLXOQKWZIHUBWcUci6iuTL7eMOelVAKfp+NkA0kOElN3BbV26AiGZsXEqfa0EQ NtATvTAKCeHh7AEEi4knM6S3HwB2eo1zeZQ5fDbgNkCpbEwh8HUTqYDqwUhIG2NQ/k2WH+CVB9LK aINy0EeAvgF6KRK0wIaPiX8CioRNpQF7X/8EOnoAPpUvrX8DED7t8B/Bv8ErfnpSfxv4B9rx7BDd lxXRAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEVeNAVzQAZ/SAmSXyam d0PBnHLx5dgDVBCiAAACeUlEQVR42k1TW3LbMAwkNTmAALn/Jqj2OyaYA0Sk+p2MLN3Avv8RuiDl tvSMx+ZyF6+Fk5gUJ+dSa91xnv04EQGSohha6/pCDAAknqJ2CMhxAAjCBjnHMYmB1WjH4UIQAuic i4mhGjuvOmImpjAaZSSwUkoxRgUjcCAC4DkMFq4fJwyEjeGGK2gi0GiACEIEcucBCSIdQF4cXoBv 90yOCEgLfh6GMNQBkBEsq85qZYXgvLdfAAaVa9cycTB8T9ejhJaBjz1d76E24l6FeiDW3qPRN366 yZlZD/I3SdR8ZsYJefF/wCtjjuEfgy2vWPXaag/4tOdWFXlMYq3l3bmQyIK71lgZ24ju+/4OXebY GT6EWc0NNlmMTCQ6T2TVx4CQUfO6AjBjoIyRPLW2sGhRA2i/Y7TorCeoasrLZFqbuzweu5lhxNPE qh/b1Czy9esB+1j7zTaT6lp9rlvev36b4WAR4WJm0/V9yFV/7t9HA3AmzbgvBaaql/25NYui45S5 2bNUreXt+TwaQG7kZSin/xD7OE2N+i63i61CyQahwg6gnHzNU64mVFV368pjtxjDxt8T1C2Kfuzn loBx+byoCv5mJLbea0td0fUciuYlVohVFGmCsLzzw336ROUJFybSsjOXjD+W2fraxGrdbF5FRB2t y4amROyniSU8yRJZ3XSfF3lRtgwRLYNEcXOZMRIDbvO6saKo4nVKLn+PhBGi82Wqd67l+lavEHb1 xtZgKCAxq2KZK6YWXIUOvI6ha4gouaLJN4LxF0Qgmzr2CnntBb0xCQPwTW2L2ChabAnJfY7YDsTH DmP6cd23th4AfFt+37db4KsNOSX9A2uVrt2g1hEXAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Hashcash: 1:20:071203:eliz@gnu.org::pVw085WJ46uib1ho:0000002Wg X-Hashcash: 1:20:071203:emacs-devel@gnu.org::aa3Kqo0DFMnQsk9D:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000Vuj In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:06:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84523 Archived-At: --===============0412090634== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Michael Olson >> Is this information about the underlying filesystem available in >> some way to Emacs Lisp programs? > > We could make it available quite easily, but what do you suggest the > application code does with this information? An additional use case for this code is to detect whether the underlying file system supports file modification times. I'm not entirely certain of this, but I think that at least some variants of FAT, perhaps all, do not support them. One of the programs I maintain (not part of Emacs yet) relies on file modification times in order to accurately determine which files need to have their contents updated after a corresponding change to a "source" file. =2D-=20 Michael Olson -- FSF Associate Member #652 | http://mwolson.org/ -- Jabber: mwolson_at_hcoop.net | /` |\ | | | Sysadmin -- Hobbies: Lisp, GP2X, HCoop | |_] | \| |_| Projects: Emacs, Muse, ERC, EMMS, ErBot, DVC, Planner | --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHU1ZV+1Ho2POo0xkRAlnwAKCBXcn52g1PbcFRGVkyu8zVqWuwMQCfYc+E 8dGWnrMBhoVf6JdX+rr0i7I= =B/9s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- --===============0412090634== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel --===============0412090634==--