From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling TransientMark Mode by default] Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:46:44 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <878x1ejj7f.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080220200142.GA1979@muc.de> <006e01c8740e$366ebbd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <87prurb20i.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203649968 13264 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 03:12:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, 'Sascha Wilde' , lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, 'Stefan Monnier' , storm@cua.dk, 'Alan Mackenzie' , Drew Adams To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 04:13:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSOLU-0002oD-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:13:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSOKz-0001cJ-Jl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:12:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSFX3-0007HJ-Ds for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:48:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSFX1-0007Fy-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:48:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSFX1-0007Fb-D3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:48:27 -0500 Original-Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.201]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSFWs-0005s2-MK; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:48:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JSFWp-000Ftv-EW; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:48:15 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87prurb20i.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:13:01 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 7b6940144bc5d56bdacd12344196c2df X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2278 [Feb 21 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:07:01 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89920 Archived-At: > "Drew Adams" writes: >> Question: Is it important that the region stay active when you move point? >> If not, then perhaps (in t-m mode) we should always have point movement >> deactivate the region. > > Yes, in fact it's a basic tenent of tmm usage... People that are used > to tmm would be _extremely_ inconvenienced if movement deactivated the > mark. > > Remember: tmm is not cua-selection-mode. In cua-selection-mode point movement deactivates the region only when the region was activated by shift-arrows. But when the region is activated by C-SPC, point movements extend the active region. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/