From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Terminology in multi-tty primitives Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:59 -0500 Message-ID: <878wq0j52s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> References: <87zlihi05s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1230438546 9429 80.91.229.12 (28 Dec 2008 04:29:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 05:30:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LGnI4-0008BG-Nv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:30:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39484 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LGnGr-0003Tw-0z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LGnGn-0003Tr-8S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LGnGl-0003Te-RL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49150 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LGnGl-0003Tb-PE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:51 -0500 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]:51005) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LGnGk-0000e9-Lt; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:50 -0500 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EA1CF57E217; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:09:39 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107320 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Here, `terminal' is a catch-all term for an input/output device, >> including both ttys (text-only terminals) and X/Win32-win/Nextstep >> (graphical terminals). In contrast, tty should always refer to >> text-only terminals. > > But there's no delete-tty or suspend-terminal. That seems consistent to me. The delete-terminal function does something useful on both text and graphical terminals: for ttys, it returns control of the tty to the shell; on X, it closes the X connection. On the other hand, suspending only makes sense for text-only terminals: it is used to temporarily return control to the shell. There is no analogous operation on graphical displays. Thus, we provide suspend-tty rather than suspend-terminal.