From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BZR and the bootstrap Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:37:01 +0200 Message-ID: <878w4g4ftu.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <4C5D8EB2.7090601@alice.it> <83zkwwv6k6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281325049 23955 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2010 03:37:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 03:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Angelo Graziosi To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 05:37:24 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiJAy-0001Go-3C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:37:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32834 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiJAx-0006fd-Gt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60453 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiJAr-0006ec-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiJAp-0008Te-5B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:37:16 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:58850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiJAo-0008TN-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiJAm-0001EZ-LZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:37:12 +0200 Original-Received: from 83.42.13.171 ([83.42.13.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:37:12 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 83.42.13.171 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:37:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.42.13.171 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NxKfjYTLmN7E71cqRBnIkQ4XKYc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128447 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Now I have noticed, when my internet connection is on (1), that BZR is >> called during the bootstrap. This is flagged both by 'top' and the modem >> lights. >> >> Why BZR is called? What is it doing? > > Probably because Emacs calls VC every time it needs to visit a file > that is in a versioned directory. > >> What happens if I switch off the connection (2)? > > Nothing bad should happen, because if I'm right, Emacs invokes "bzr > status" which is done entirely locally. He says that the modem lights blink, indicating network activity. So it seems that the OP is using a lightweight checkout. If that is true, I wonder what info bzr needs from upstream. In any case, having bzr phoning home for every visited file would be irritatingly slow and he would already notice that. So what the OP reports is very strange. [snip]