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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs lisp syntax rfc: (cond (EXPR => (lambda (X) ...)))
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:55:28 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878vz0i06n.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tyhoa67u.fsf@ambire.localdomain>

Thien-Thi Nguyen writes:

 > - We are already dealing with a construct where the
 >   treatment of the list is non-uniform (EXPR vs BODY),
 >   so playing in the "neck" area has precedence: special
 >   handling of docstring, ‘interactive’ form, indentation
 >   hints (for ‘defmacro’), etc.

All these occur in a top-level form, though.

 > - Functional style is not unlispy.

True, but in the examples so far you could define a macro like

(defmacro applificating-cond (&rest clauses)
  "Documentation is all too often left to the reader.
This docstring just follows that custom."
  (let ((var (gensym)))
    `(let (,var)
       (cond ,@(mapcar (lambda (clause) `((setq ,var ,(car clause))
					  (funcall ,(cdr clause) ,var)))
		       clauses)))))

and write

   (applificating-cond 
     ((cdr list) #'car)
     ((car list) #'car)

instead of

 >   (cond 
 >     ((cdr list) => #'car)
 >     ((car list) => #'car)

No?

 > No variables at all!

I do like that.  So, do you ever want to write

   (cond 
     ((cdr list) => #'car)
     ((car list) (random-expr-not-needing-value-of-car-list free-var))

or the like?  (That makes me feel a little ill, but YMMV.)



  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-05  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-02 21:45 emacs lisp syntax rfc: (cond (EXPR => (lambda (X) ...))) Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-02 21:57 ` Fren Zeee
2011-01-02 22:52 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-01-04 16:41   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-04 17:56     ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-01-04 18:39       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-03  2:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-04 17:00   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-03 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-04 18:12   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-05  1:55     ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2011-01-05  3:21       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-05  4:16         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-01-05  5:15           ` Miles Bader
2011-01-05 21:29     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-05 22:40       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-01-06  0:10         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-06  8:24           ` Helmut Eller
2011-01-07  3:49             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-06 18:43         ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-05 23:36     ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-11 17:20       ` Andy Wingo
2011-01-05  5:17 ` Miles Bader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-03  5:37 MON KEY
2011-01-04 17:20 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

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