From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:57:52 +0800 Message-ID: <878vsmt34f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87pqlztipk.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309273328 4039 80.91.229.12 (28 Jun 2011 15:02:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:02:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 28 17:02:02 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QbZne-0004LZ-9U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:02:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39310 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbZnd-0000Gz-Ev for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbZjw-00080V-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:58:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbZjr-0001AS-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:58:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f51.google.com ([209.85.210.51]:54499) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbZjr-0001AD-27 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:58:07 -0400 Original-Received: by pzk26 with SMTP id 26so198473pzk.38 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:58:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=4YveykQ8GZ1PLUIpT+TQJ+SvsOq4po1OP0JEnFyx98I=; b=TlsVFq2kGSRDbjcaoCKayA4ZZPJjo1pj/jDDMSNEbOfbiZ6VxE00/qxNZqxX3AKjHP r/9W7LmS6G38wj7E+3wyCewfN/6a0JpGJ4sNgIDE/tpCvxgX4/LsZRU/IWlY9H8PH6Of TQ6W9LKTlEZlruG2m8d0y8OP7No+jMXWz4Fpo= Original-Received: by 10.68.27.4 with SMTP id p4mr3953161pbg.171.1309273085143; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from home.jasonrumney.net ([180.75.197.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m7sm160594pbk.86.2011.06.28.07.58.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by home.jasonrumney.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1E0441C7D; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:57:53 +0800 (MYT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:17:49 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.51 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141123 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Port 25 is commonly blocked by ISPs. Indeed. And all outgoing ports are commonly blocked by corporate firewalls, which I'm sure is not an insignificant proportion of Emacs users. So direct connections to gnu servers are not really an improvement over misconfigured local mail servers and clients.