From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:30:45 +0200 Message-ID: <878voxiwh6.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <0h62k1hm6a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317940278 22610 80.91.229.12 (6 Oct 2011 22:31:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:31:18 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 07 00:31:11 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBwT6-00083j-HA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:31:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46708 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBwT6-0004u2-3V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:31:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBwT3-0004tl-VA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBwT2-0006h8-QA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52906) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBwT2-0006h4-Ic for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:31:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBwT1-000821-Dk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:31:03 +0200 Original-Received: from 175.red-83-45-165.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.165.175]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:31:03 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 175.red-83-45-165.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:31:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 175.red-83-45-165.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7nxd31vHyU3R02P05GlnhQTI6NA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144653 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Am I the only one getting frustrated by people using a git mirror of >> Emacs, and then sending bug reports about what they find? > > Nope. You make the points very well. So you expect from users to fetch and build the very latest sources before sending a bug report? (assuming that the bug is easily reproducible) ... to see how, in most cases, the bug report is left resting on the database for months until someone has some spare time? Is this reasonble? > I also dislike getting bug reports "I see this problem in [git] revision > 000000deadbeef00000", which means nothing to me. It is the revision id, which exactly defines the emacs source code used for the build. bzr has something like that, but time ago the people here decided that knowing that information is not really useful, so just ignore it. It is funny to see Lars complaining about people reporting bugs from builds which are a few weeks old, while the Emacs developer community is happy with the output of (version), which is anything but accurate as it depends on when the binary was built, not on when the sources were updated. :-/ > But now cue people moaning about how they don't like bzr and simply must > use git because of [awesome feature]. For me it is not so much a matter of awesome features but of convenience given my setup, so I'm happy that some people provide git mirrors. Though I would appreciate too if they were regularly/automatically updated, or at least some clear instructions on how to update a local git mirror with the contents of the Savannah bzr repo.