From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: patch vs. overwrite in bzr Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:15:11 +0200 Message-ID: <878vi79a3k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k42cwys8.fsf@gnu.org> <87iphjhbm8.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87398lgrat.fsf_-_@niu.edu> <871uo5c7r0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87pqbpj5j3.fsf@altern.org> <87aa2szgig.fsf@gnu.org> <87ehs4yrhz.fsf@gnu.org> <83k41vctyg.fsf@gnu.org> <83aa2rcnww.fsf@gnu.org> <8362dedgcb.fsf@gnu.org> <87zkapi7qe.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1333790052 9220 80.91.229.3 (7 Apr 2012 09:14:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 09:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 07 11:14:11 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SGRik-0006Hm-PO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:14:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51158 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SGRik-0000FU-1b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 05:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45115) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SGRih-0000Ep-3d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 05:14:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SGRie-00059F-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 05:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:51223) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SGRib-00058c-8h; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 05:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: by wgbdr1 with SMTP id dr1so2035288wgb.30 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=WTz7kIC/iLStoZFDQR++t5tJuoJfYk8ZHmfcOo5xiJk=; b=Z/aj4lEFliyMByo/4CaAJXn8QXmtsaM1i5x4+gZTpUDcy7PdoFmwijzu6jlOYVVzR8 Q0P06q8EE/Hxf9exWwqOd8A7mH7oPSJ8eNCpiDfi8Aizon5UBY+oBhH7cN/P2YXN9ShV Sfp3l8Uprdr0TYzyakqRldbscUad/AxALSopc6J7qB31rvlqCyq396TsKAQ/LmPamiZc Y6He9F33CiaKEc28nOC613fNthiHvbq3hYv6QMPjtqjFk05PeCzp5jVxibpeZjuRvsb+ a9L/gGRlr7NTOhB8DKEH6JyI2idUrbDwG3Co3lElXwTc2UukeIM0yA1HyUUdNDpc5Bkj tHrw== Original-Received: by 10.216.206.83 with SMTP id k61mr526867weo.12.1333790037034; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from myhost.localdomain (pha75-11-82-236-86-204.fbx.proxad.net. [82.236.86.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h8sm21488813wix.4.2012.04.07.02.13.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D05AF856E; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 11:15:11 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:17:04 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.125.82.49 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149454 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > As I see it, the main reason for Org to use a separate repository > is to gather an active community around a central place. > > Regular Org testers don't want to rebuild Emacs each time they have > to test a new feature in Org. > > Doesn't bzr allow them to do all the same things while > using the Emacs repository? Yes, but it is more complicated for most users. > There is no legal reason for not using the Emacs repository as the > canonical repository for Org. Just a practical one: doing so would > force us to maintain the canonical Org repository in Emacs *and* > another repository for things that are useful to Org and that cannot > be part of Emacs. > > I am concerned that this practice is harmful. > Would we want these things to be part of Emacs? > If not, then it isn't a problem. For some of these things, we want them in Emacs. For others we don't want them in Emacs. For some we simply don't know. For things we want to be in Org's core and then in GNU Emacs, having a separate contrib/ repository is a way to give everyone access to code from authors that signed the FSF papers but whose papers are not yet processed by the FSF. For other things, having them in Org's repo makes sense, because it is a central place for anything related to Org. -- Bastien