From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Schulte Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Kickstarter for Emacs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:33:28 -0400 Message-ID: <878vht9kjr.fsf@gmx.com> References: <87wr5dfm9v.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1334766831 6225 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2012 16:33:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 18 18:33:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SKXpB-0008EA-Uy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:33:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60321 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKXpB-0007tD-C2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKXp5-0007sr-NO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:33:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKXp0-0001WQ-Qx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:33:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com ([74.208.5.67]:39109 helo=mailout-us.mail.com) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKXp0-0001WE-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:33:34 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Apr 2012 16:33:32 -0000 Original-Received: from c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net (EHLO bagel) [174.56.50.60] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us008) with SMTP; 18 Apr 2012 12:33:32 -0400 X-Authenticated: #67821228 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19vvOwiay9vhJmShgZfB6GR9FjhY1XrMJFc7vlRYq a0BylKI6dKGOiO In-Reply-To: (Tom's message of "Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:25:50 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.208.5.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149770 Archived-At: Tom writes: > Chong Yidong gnu.org> writes: [...] >> >> If there is interest in funding anything at the Emacs project level, the >> FSF has set up a mechanism for donating to individual GNU packages, >> currently used by GNU Octave and GNU Telephony; see >> >> https://my.fsf.org/associate/donate/working-together >> > > Yes, but it's project level support. I was talking about feature > level funding, so that people can fund the implementation of their pet > feature explicitly instead of giving money to the generic project > and let the developers decide what they want to work on. > > People are much more willing to give money if they know it will > go to fund the specific feature they want implemented. Paying > for scratching my itch makes my itch go away, so I'm willing to > pay for it. > Maybe the FSF donation system linked above should be enhanced adding; 1. increased donation granularity to specific features tasks or bugs, 2. user (not-developer) introduction of projects of interest, e.g., "if someone did X I'd happily donate Y" and an up-vote or up-donate driven system of ranking and displaying pledges. Making something like this would require both development effort to build the infrastructure and social effort in advertising to potential developers and users. Perhaps the fact that only two projects are listed at the link above means that the social environment is not yet in place. -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/