From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: immediate strings Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:50:30 +0900 Message-ID: <878vgif7q1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <4FBB51E7.6080601@yandex.ru> <2E06A9F9-C4C2-49E4-8E09-17AC0F1AE686@raeburn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337838646 26304 80.91.229.3 (24 May 2012 05:50:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 05:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Dev To: Ken Raeburn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 24 07:50:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SXQwc-000874-4n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 May 2012 07:50:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50515 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXQwb-0000hI-Qo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 May 2012 01:50:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXQwZ-0000gq-7Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2012 01:50:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXQwV-0006Xm-Fp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2012 01:50:38 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:38762) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXQwV-0006We-70; Thu, 24 May 2012 01:50:35 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.234.39.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.234.39] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1SXQwS-00089j-3p; Thu, 24 May 2012 14:50:32 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 195D9DFF5; Thu, 24 May 2012 14:50:31 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <2E06A9F9-C4C2-49E4-8E09-17AC0F1AE686@raeburn.org> (Ken Raeburn's message of "Thu, 24 May 2012 01:41:14 -0400") Original-Lines: 21 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 203.216.5.74 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150628 Archived-At: Ken Raeburn writes: > FWIW, there used to be a GCC extension that caused the ternary > operator to be an lvalue if both the second and third operands were > lvalues. I'm not sure when it was removed; possible in 4.0, which > might be old enough that we can ignore it... It can be ignored, I think -- after all, the presence of that extension won't cause any miscompiles, but will merely result in a failure to diagnose a potential problem should the user change some code that uses those macros. So as long as enough active Emacs developers use non-ancient versions of gcc, there's really no problem... -miles -- ... reality itself is blind unintelligent force, and it is only a fluke, it is only as a result of pure chances, that resulting from the exuberance of this energy there are people, with values, with reason, with languages, with cultures, ... and with love. Just a fluke. [Alan Watts, "The Ceramic and the Fully Automatic"]