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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: sleep-for documentation and how to pause reliably
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:19:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878v6pj2vk.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83mwv6szif.fsf@gnu.org

Hi Eli,

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Am I missing something, or is our current docs of sleep-for misleading?
>
> The doc string says:
>
>   (sleep-for SECONDS &optional MILLISECONDS)
>
>   Pause, without updating display, for SECONDS seconds.
>
> The only way I can interpret this is that sleep-for _always_ pauses
> for that number of seconds.
>
> The ELisp manual goes even further:
>
>    -- Function: sleep-for seconds &optional millisec
>        This function simply pauses for SECONDS seconds without updating
>        the display.  It pays no attention to available input.  It returns
>        `nil'.        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>        [...]
>
>        Use `sleep-for' when you wish to guarantee a delay.
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> "Guarantee a delay".  No "buts".
>
> However, in fact, sleep-for will return as soon as any input from any
> subprocess arrives.  E.g., try this in *scratch*:
>
>   (progn (setq proc (start-process-shell-command "ls" nil "ls"))
>          (sleep-for 20)
> 	 (message "hi"))
>
> You will see no delay at all before the message is displayed.
>
> Am I missing something?  If not, apart of fixing the docs, _is_ there
> any way to wait reliably when async subprocesses are running and
> producing output?
What about using a sentinel?

(progn
  (let ((proc (start-process-shell-command "ls" nil "ls")))
    (set-process-sentinel proc #'(lambda (process event)
                                   (when (string= event "finished\n"))
                                   (sleep-for 20)
                                   (message "hi after 20s sleeping"))))
  (message "Hi now sleeping 20s"))



-- 
Thierry
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-15 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-15  9:22 sleep-for documentation and how to pause reliably Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-15 10:19 ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2013-02-15 13:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-15 20:36     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-02-16  8:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-17 11:58         ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-17 16:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-17 23:41             ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-15 16:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-15 18:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-15 20:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-02 20:48     ` Johan Bockgård

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