From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs completion matches selection UI Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:30:17 +0200 Message-ID: <878uvg4ul2.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <87fvqtg02v.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <8338moevm3.fsf@gnu.org> <8761rkaa5e.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87txf0390n.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87y53komex.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87haa8moh6.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <874n67n450.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87eh5bkxca.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87d2kuzzqj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87a9fylusq.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <878uvizrwz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761qmkyn1.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87zjnyxdpb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k3f2j7xv.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <2518D79A-B9E4-45DF-A403-8330145DFD17@gmail.com> <87eh58j0x3.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387474235 12472 80.91.229.3 (19 Dec 2013 17:30:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:30:35 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 19 18:30:41 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VthQn-0002Va-27 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:30:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45544 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VthQm-0005N4-Js for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:30:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VthQd-0005Lh-7D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:30:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VthQX-0004RW-GA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:30:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::230]:57643) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VthQX-0004RE-99 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:30:25 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f176.google.com with SMTP id h14so617717eaj.35 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:30:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Otjyn+ohm5xmteRQp459g6Bg5bVmkSEUT2JMGSZ4rks=; b=q3VIypyFLFBMQSZTdEjUhqEC7a83f8dI8Fyp76IES56aUAsZmd5+NH4Su+0IK9md7P wnrldgUyeaa4W532xedgo6Uo86XtZHIifOuGDIOnoIrQdqfpGWQrHXn4dTNb5xgODjl2 6fO1SU53AKVY/tESLmT/+rHAYn8HTf6rRPDiFvXO8GxfZVjyD8lsAG9jWhujgEdb3CST l9XLsAyX9aXlUwsGcgoiVpGdIB6HP9/xB++HkRCBCGbcfkenLogH8TVsO6suV/YFNEVl lqlcdIZF5giuf2XpYrzBl0fN7fhUy+hpdy47eNqHomZ2yLdGc7NgEXgQgNj1BO1olSOS zl5Q== X-Received: by 10.15.43.10 with SMTP id w10mr947810eev.13.1387474223840; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:30:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from axl (static-nbl2-118.cytanet.com.cy. [212.31.107.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o47sm11129661eem.21.2013.12.19.09.30.22 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:30:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87eh58j0x3.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:49:44 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c01::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166615 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > SM> Indeed, I do hope to bring something like company-mode into Emacs, maybe > SM> even making it into the default in-buffer completion UI. > SM> But the UI based on *Completions* is likely to stick around for a long > SM> time, so it's important to integrate the two at some level. > > I see company-mode and others as hacks to get around the lack of a true > completion popup. I really think `widget-choose' is the direction we > should be going in graphical mode, and if *Completions* stays it should > be only in text-mode. You seem to be conflating company-mode with its overlay-based popup feature, which is a small part of it. Why don't you start with implementing a programmable graphical popup that can display a list of options near any position in Emacs's window, that completion engines can integrate with without losing the advantages of the current behavior?