From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 16:08:37 +0100 Message-ID: <878usuard6.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87txbn8r6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8338j717oe.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjlf6tdx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83sir7yue7.fsf@gnu.org> <8761o3dlak.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <871tyqes5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87a9ddg7o8.fsf@engster.org> <87d2i9ee8t.fsf@engster.org> <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> <87vbvzcjv9.fsf@engster.org> <87iorz18fy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vbvyv08q.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhwuyycb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvn2awbf.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83a9daug6e.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393686538 19530 80.91.229.3 (1 Mar 2014 15:08:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 15:08:58 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 01 16:09:06 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJlXD-0008AS-KC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 16:09:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60023 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJlXD-00038F-26 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 10:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJlX5-00037E-7D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 10:09:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJlWy-0006d4-FI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 10:08:55 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJlWy-0006cq-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 10:08:48 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJlWx-00082y-DC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 16:08:47 +0100 Original-Received: from 19.red-83-39-162.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.39.162.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 16:08:47 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 19.red-83-39-162.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 16:08:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 19.red-83-39-162.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dNtGtMCKLD7jJKJZRXyJVHDtEL0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169996 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I know that you don't trust me when I say that this is foolish > > It is foolish to call an existing implementation impossible to > achieve. > >> so I'll recommend to you to ask on gcc-devel: "how much work it is >> to implement the necessary features from scratch (say on Elisp) for >> providing C++ smart code completion as Clang does?" > > It is already implemented. This is false, as acknowledged by the C++/CEDET developer himself and easily testable with a few lines of code. >> You can also take a look at GCC or Clang sources to get an idea of the >> involved complexity (not that the sources reflects all the complexity.) > > Irrelevant, because we don't need to compile C++ sources, we need > something else. We don't need the backend, but we need all the other big parts. In the case of Clang, that's probably more than 70% of its source code (the backend is provided by LLVM, which is a segregated code base.)