From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:33:40 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <878ukrc2sr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <838uktm9gw.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppe5rt5l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d2a4arju.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412696068 8243 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2014 15:34:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:34:28 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 07 17:34:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbWmJ-0003SR-Rf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:34:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59451 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbWmJ-0004Ug-FG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 11:34:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbWlx-0004UK-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 11:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbWls-0005A6-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 11:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:50949) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbWls-0005A1-1X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 11:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbWlq-00039X-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:33:50 +0200 Original-Received: from x2f520b0.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.245.32.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:33:50 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by x2f520b0.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:33:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f520b0.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1mPr/GHZBY7R5cEeLhWYHmxQ8oE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175076 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> One problem with that is that quite often Emacs' choice of a coding >> system for a buffer is the result of heuristics rather than dependable >> information. Not making a fuzz might often be simplest. > > If you try to save a buffer Emacs will check whether all characters are > encodable, and complain (and ask) if they aren't. Sure, but a raw byte is trivially encodable since it is no character. -- David Kastrup