From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:07:33 +0100 Message-ID: <878ui663vu.fsf@zigzag.favinet> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87388mme16.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87a92u86wv.fsf@gnu.org> <87d27oliue.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3w2fgux.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871to1f69o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87egrza8qa.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418809749 27465 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2014 09:49:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:49:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 17 10:49:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1BDt-00087K-JJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:48:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48390 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1AWR-0004wd-Bw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 04:03:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1AWH-0004o5-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 04:03:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1AWC-0000Nt-HP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 04:03:45 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp209.alice.it ([82.57.200.105]:36631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1AWC-0000NZ-6h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 04:03:40 -0500 Original-Received: from zigzag.favinet (79.24.36.247) by smtp209.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 547E302502542DD7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:03:37 +0100 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1AaE-0003zn-V0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:07:51 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87egrza8qa.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:57:01 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.105 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180217 Archived-At: --==-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) () Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:57:01 +0100 Has IXIN been ruled out already? Probably the README is not enticing enough for Emacs hackers. Maybe this patch will help: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=marketing.diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable commit b70b103663478a3dc1a0134418b950e67303893b Author: Thien-Thi Nguyen Date: 2014-12-17 09:35:56 +0100 [maint] Mention p-o-c rendering program domain in README; nfc. =2D-- README | 1 + 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+) diff --git a/README b/README index 5625597..8f9f8cb 100644 =2D-- a/README +++ b/README @@ -14,6 +14,7 @@ See end for copying conditions. =20 [[file:c/]] contains some simple command-line utilities to write and read the file format, and a proof-of-concept rendering program. + (Think of it as a potential info.el replacement for Emacs.) =20 [[file:d/]] contains the some pre-built .sxml and .ixin files. [[file:d/GNUmakefile]] supports "make demo" and "make demo-zow", --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will add some more marketing in README and release 1.9, which will include the following changes, shortly: b70b103 2014-12-17 [maint] Mention p-o-c rendering program domain in READM= E; nfc. 6c75fc1 2013-07-24 [maint] Reformat NEWS; nfc. 01e430d 2013-02-18 No longer distribute {epsf,texinfo}.tex. 9ba97fe 2013-02-18 [spec int] Fix typo: Include "(news)" heading. The "IX" in "IXIN" stands for "indexed", the most important piece of metainfo in a manual, IMHO. A high-quality index communicates the authors' priorities and intent; those who consult/browse it save time and gain aligned perspective. I think any proposed info format replacement that demotes index support to second-class is a dissipative WOMBAT at best. To me, "second-class" includes remote (server) protocols, etc. =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) =3D> nil --=-=-=-- --==-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlSRR9kACgkQZwMiJEyAdQImAwCg2mBrzN2aAu0kCf0fMgFxqWck Om0AnA7JMmMzHWDiR2qVnWn68ELrezTf =X9CT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==-=-=--