From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA contributions? Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:35:47 +0100 Message-ID: <878u77t8jw.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87612g5tmx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87io6cl0hx.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87lhb8ulex.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87oag3d9a0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fmrd8fg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444728993 19964 80.91.229.3 (13 Oct 2015 09:36:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 13 11:36:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlw0P-0001Nt-2Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:36:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33317 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlw0O-0001am-C1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:36:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40394) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlvzy-0001aR-MQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:36:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlvzp-0007Sd-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:35:54 -0400 Original-Received: from cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.12]:51560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlvzp-0007SI-5e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlvzn-0002ML-Aq; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:35:47 +0100 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlvzn-0008GB-7K; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:35:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877fmrd8fg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:32:51 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191439 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: >>> All of this should really be better explained on the readme. I >>> remember I felt a little lost the first time I was doing it. If anyone >>> would like to document these steps a bit better I would be thoroughly >>> grateful. >> >> I really regret squashing: I think I only did it because of some vague >> sense that it would be more hygienic. Fairly nonsensical, but I don't >> think it's possible, or practical, to unsquash at this point. For the >> sake of simplicity, I think it would be good if the README recommends >> not squashing. If I understand, a git subtree squash is not like a normal rebase; it does actually know about the commits that were squashed, as opposed to rewriting them like a rebase squash. > Also, Stefan's original recommendation was to just develop the package > in ELPA: no remote. > > I think this could be a more viable option if debbugs integrated with > ELPA a bit better. Personally, I wanted Github a tiny bit for the fame > and the glory, but mostly because of the issue tracking. Other people > probably make more use of Github's functionality (Phil mentioned pull > requests, etc), For my own packages, I'd moved them from mercurial on google code to github shortly before, so shifting the development to ELPA didn't seem like a good way forward. For dash, it just reflects the reality -- it was already developed on github and wasn't going to move. > but in my case, if I got an automatic email anytime anyone reported an > Emacs bug with "gnorb" in the package header... > > Hang on, back up. If `report-emacs-bug' prompted the user for a package > (with completion), and then I was automatically emailed with any bug > reports filed against my package(s) (where I'm in the Maintainer > header), and then I could continue that back-and-forth via debbugs, most > of the allure of Github would be gone for me, and I'd probably just do > the development within ELPA. All of that would help. Phil