From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rasmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questioning the new behavior of `open-line'. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194234 Archived-At: Artur Malabarba writes: >> I realize that I would probably be mostly OK if special behavior is >> adopted when point is a column zero. I=E2=80=99m still not sure that M-= o warrants >> such complexity, but I don=E2=80=99t feel too strongly about it. > > The complexity here is very manageable, and the function isn=E2=80=99t lo= ng. > Besides, it=E2=80=99s a very frequently used command. It=E2=80=99s worth = investing and > extra 4 or 5 lines to make it more natural. I was referring to the additional =E2=80=99cognitive complexity=E2=80=99 gi= ven the conditional behavior of M-o. But it may indeed fall under DWIM. Thanks for the effort, Artur. Rasmus --=20 Hvor meget poesi tror De kommer ud af et glas isvand?