From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH PING] Honor 'SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH' when generating autoloads. Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:57:32 +0100 Message-ID: <878u5gkakj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k2ph3mgx.fsf@gnu.org> <87io4lnkyz.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvtwoktg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448816283 16116 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2015 16:58:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alex Kost , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 29 17:57:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a35IM-00051A-2P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:57:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36960 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a35IQ-00007U-0m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:57:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a35IC-000075-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:57:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a35IB-00031q-Sl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:57:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55348) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a35I8-00031c-5b; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:57:36 -0500 Original-Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:51824 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a35I7-0005kM-Bb; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:57:35 -0500 X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 9 Frimaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <83mvtwoktg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:02:35 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195553 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii skribis: >> From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) >> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:44:36 +0100 >>=20 >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-11/msg01547.html >>=20 >> Support bit-for-bit reproducible generation of autoloads. >> See . >> Submitted on behalf of Alex Kost. >>=20 >> * lisp/emacs-lisp/autoload.el (autoload-insert-section-header): Check >> whether the 'SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH' environment variable is defined; use it >> as the TIME part of the 'autoloads' sexp when it is. > > Thanks, but I think we need to discuss this first. > > First, if this is Alex's code, please show his full name and email > address, as they will have to be mentioned in the commit message, and > we need to know the status of his legal paperwork, or the lack > thereof. First, Alex (Cc=E2=80=99d) asked me explicitly to do it on his behalf becau= se he didn=E2=80=99t want to have to deal with this (IMO unfriendly) feedback personally. I see we=E2=80=99re failing here. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2015-11/msg00378.html Second, I would argue that this is not legally significant. In fact, there=E2=80=99s only one way to do it. > Second, I don't see how doing this in only loaddefs.el will help make > an Emacs build "reproducible": This is obviously the first patch of a series. It does not make Emacs itself bit-reproducible, but it makes Emacs packages bit-reproducible. See for more info. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.