From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Windows emacs-25.1 i686 vs x86_64? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:26:58 +0000 Message-ID: <878tslvy19.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <6e2cffe5-942b-48d4-9ed5-ef39803bcd30@googlegroups.com> <87mvhgsf21.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360o4monq.fsf@gnu.org> <87vaw4gq0j.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83oa1vlnkk.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1iba6od.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ins2jq88.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg2p8swx.fsf@russet.org.uk> <831sypjmst.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpggip8j.fsf@gnu.org> <05ba947a-970a-178c-8036-bcdf84485384@cs.ucla.edu> <87inrzz4y0.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87fun2vxab.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479205702 17778 195.159.176.226 (15 Nov 2016 10:28:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:28:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 15 11:28:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c6ayH-00031H-8c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:28:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45299 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6ayK-0005VN-CZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 05:28:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32915) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6axJ-0004pl-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 05:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6axI-00014Q-Kx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 05:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:35568) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6axB-0000zv-9B; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 05:27:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=M06Osl1FCTp2Xykl06FRTcY4NqlXmkidwaBsf4LiucI=; b=Rx8wawzRl6rjb2RDAYyql7ZBW deoUR2uYhbCK/daOF245Y7rE+qB/RU7wW558DEGdNd0rSUf9qBjNOPlH4vjKGwUnYG+DPn4ELXm+x EzSvjWqg0K0jtmdJ03piS4NEcTXu96p+0ZPbffXhBbqpFpi5EBS7WLzp1y3fXA2affZJAZzGl3ucA tXEANPAEo3zgczqjySQ4AnUr+nlnvg9QFW4hHkXcvIoTfJ32wZX8q2XIcrEmzOxj2eDg9zmP1wVRG drckOKllODozVvk3icrUYKdgiTgy1m/f7/iJhZC37OXV3g3EhjubxyZ7Cic8rnSvPAhP+mUCgsCjZ DSdxCV9RQ==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:48864 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c6ax9-002aXU-4b; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:26:59 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87fun2vxab.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 08 Nov 2016 14:52:44 +0000") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 31.216.48.48 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209412 Archived-At: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > We don't need "If you use..." -- Emacs should know OS it is using. > I am happy to add this to Emacs-26 (perhaps as an addition to the splash > screen). For "" we could use a debbugs email. This > would then provide us a generalized mechanism for deprecation of OS > support. The only difficulty I can see is finding a copy of Win 98 on > which to test this. > > Can I suggest we add 9x, and Windows XP into the list for Emacs-26? > >> > The only thing that I could think of further to get more information >> > would be to check the download logs; does ftp.gnu.org store user agent >> > strings or equivalent. This would at least give us some evidence about >> > Windows 9x -- also Windows XP. >> >> That is a good idea. > > I will investigate and see if this data is available. So, I managed to get info about one day -- there have been 32,000 accesses to ftp.gnu.org. None (for any project, let alone emacs) have come with a Win 9x user agent. Phil