From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: standard output/error/input streams Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:41:24 +0000 Message-ID: <878tq27xu3.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87wpdxu8yt.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485176363 1777 195.159.176.226 (23 Jan 2017 12:59:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:59:23 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 23 13:59:18 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cVeDL-0008Mt-P5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:59:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41283 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cVeDQ-0001Ua-Pt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:59:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43181) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cVdwt-0004WB-6O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:42:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cVdwo-000084-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:42:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:60774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cVdwn-0008Uh-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:42:10 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E126DC4F03 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:41:02 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Original-Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAA9C4EFB for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:41:02 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E584C4ED6 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:41:02 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ac6hsTKom2aBOp2jnd1BEMfvteLV4517r6JUDq0Y9U8=; b=1Hzn3/OcJbVhX0w1y+MFagOKX 2ZjOCmTq0dJUxBs2cJjKSM75vXCmwQI4G82uvu9vRn+3OsS8mzw/uQ+GRuEoTnsK9d9DMZPlPv98p oKO+71qjwustewFEt16vhe84lBefvXKSVg3yntakIIxWCpOxX3o07jczd1abWF9mAG7euE8u8ARt9 cVj2pP9QyUf0pUqftvvt5qHITFsfIWFUzaD5FCAK3WXBPnotVCG2ae3Hri0kpgNZp8mZFO6RAfNGg cfdLYqdSn5AFslFbZNE2WZCdeERd4bf1ilxx7pvQzNSEren8+aWGq2s78Mff8778ddkKsteAjTT4g I3iFQDuvw==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:39936 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cVdw5-001sMs-9D; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:41:25 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:52:17 -0500") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 185.116.214.213 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211574 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> That does make me realize that I could use `start-process` with an executable >> that does what I want, and use `process-send-string` to bypass the involvement >> of any buffers. Thanks for mentioning it. > > Right. What I was thinking of was to add a `make-file-process` > primitive so you don't need an external executable. If we had a function to go to generate a stream from a process then we could have our cake and eat it. Phil