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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221845 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: > The majority of users (namely those with a GTK build) can. Lucid and > Motif users can't because these toolkits don't support tooltips. I > doubt that anyone has the time to set up tooltip controls on Windows. How much of an outcry would there be if I proposed removing Lucid and Motif support completely for Emacs 27, as a first step to getting rid of the unholy mix of X and GTK we're currently doing? Robert