From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:57:31 +0100 Message-ID: <878t99rmyc.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87lgdpphmm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sh7mjd7d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87lgddgaga.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87bme8b7u9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87lgdbz1p1.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87po2mqadm.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524824465 13073 195.159.176.226 (27 Apr 2018 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:21:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 12:21:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fC0Uu-0003I6-58 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2018 12:21:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47083 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fC0X0-0000mh-TA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2018 06:23:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fC08I-0001d2-Jy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2018 05:57:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fC08F-0002y0-He for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2018 05:57:38 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:37241) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fC08F-0002xn-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2018 05:57:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=MovhhAJ7AV37QmOtc70vkV2TmtQDQNaFaFITWJyuHKY=; b=N88dcP71gizm/5win0XNIcICN 90ICZ1d4aQOdC8xfUIQ4fgmasab2rfvk/FtiFu6ervNsESrEVtar6hARibkAg9JwG8NKbiqxFj3nO H5YNAvXQLL5KJ51RMFs1b9yihShk63WpYsimbiSFJa19V8t+Jd/iGfOpDlr+5g+em5EnZHhirg1F3 OJKQ/cvP9Wf5M9GPOjE3a33o6D+JzbQVKLGfFb4MmreHAMFviMsiv3iMZdnmf9ARPbcyCd/ypWbCY c9PZUflWnX/dCzHNI1CuMbwEhQ7wr86LC7+uGArpE5OsutbjLbk/CmxJAdhjYyBIflcVKD5b1tZMv JxVK1IQsA==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-124.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.124]:56903 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fC08B-0015Ja-Gs; Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:57:31 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:38:50 -0400") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224916 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>>> More than I knew about. Replacing package.el would indeed be a way >>>> forward (although you'd need to run both in parallel for a while). >>> They're so close to each other that rather than replacing them, they >>> need to be merged or modularized so that they build on top of each >>> other. >>> package.el is not nearly as constraining as people tend to think. >> I'd just like it to cope with several versions and with Emacs version >> dependencies. > > We agree. And the underlying design is perfectly able to cope with it. > I haven't checked, but it's even possible that package.el already > handles it correctly if/when the `archive-contents` file contains > various different versions of the same package. That would be particularly good. If package.el can cope in some way, then it's backdatable. I will check. Phil