From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Predicate for true lists
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2018 01:38:53 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878t6l73pe.fsf@tcd.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 515ce169-8e88-4075-8a92-e8c1a496fe7d@default
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> 2. You say this in the doc string of `proper-list-length':
>
> A proper list is neither circular nor dotted (i.e., its
> last cdr is nil).
>
> And your entry in the manual for that function:
>
> In addition to satisfying @code{listp}, a proper list is
> neither circular nor dotted.
>
> Fair enough, but it depends on what is meant by a "circular"
> list. Does it mean only a list whose last cdr shares list
> structure with some other of its cdr's? If so then what you
> say holds. And yes, I guess that's what most of us think of.
>
> But what of a list that has a finite number of elements,
> so it last cdr is nil, but one or more of whose elements
> is itself a circular list in the above sense? Is it in
> some sense "circular" because of its circular-list element?
No, because "proper", "circular", and "dotted" all refer to list
structure (CDRs/links), not contents (CARs).
> It should be enough to say that a "true", or "proper"
> list is one that has nil as its last cdr, without
> adding that this means non-"circular".
I think that both "last cdr is nil" and "neither dotted nor circular"
completely qualify a list as being proper, so I would prefer to be
explicit and state both definitions, say, in the docstring. If nothing
else, it makes the jargon "dotted" and "circular" more discoverable.
Unless my reasoning/understanding is mistaken, that is.
--
Basil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-08 22:38 UTC|newest]
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2018-04-16 19:34 Predicate for true lists Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-04 12:12 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-04 14:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-04 14:46 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-04 15:31 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-04 16:14 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-04 16:38 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-04 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-05 1:23 ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-05 2:57 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-05 3:08 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-05 3:12 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-05 3:25 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-05 15:05 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-06 7:42 ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-06 9:40 ` Van L
2018-06-06 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-06 17:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-07 7:03 ` Van L
2018-07-05 22:31 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-06 5:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 17:16 ` Drew Adams
2018-07-06 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83601sl0wo.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-07-06 18:00 ` Drew Adams
2018-07-07 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<<83601sl0wo.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<95fda70b-5893-4788-83c5-a0bb5d708304@default>
[not found] ` <<8336wvleml.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-07-07 14:42 ` Drew Adams
2018-07-06 18:04 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 7:20 ` martin rudalics
2018-07-07 8:41 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 10:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 15:04 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-07 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 16:52 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-07 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 17:14 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 0:15 ` Drew Adams
2018-07-08 4:48 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-08 15:15 ` Drew Adams
2018-07-08 16:00 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-08 17:42 ` Drew Adams
2018-07-08 17:47 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 17:06 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-09 19:25 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-09 19:40 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-10 2:02 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-10 5:46 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-11 3:02 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-11 6:27 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-15 22:55 ` Wilfred Hughes
2018-07-16 1:37 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-11 14:01 ` [Emacs-diffs] master babe0d4: Rearrange definition of zerop in subr.el Karl Fogel
2018-07-11 17:12 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-11 17:33 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-12 15:34 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-12 15:43 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-09 12:51 ` Predicate for true lists Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-09 15:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-09 16:20 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-09 16:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-09 16:54 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-04-09 17:27 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-09 17:27 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-09 20:08 ` Unused value of error-free function warning (was: Predicate for true lists) Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-09 20:40 ` Unused value of error-free function warning Stefan Monnier
2019-04-09 20:12 ` Predicate for true lists Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-09 20:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-10 2:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-10 14:16 ` Alex Branham
2019-04-10 14:34 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-10 15:01 ` Drew Adams
2019-04-10 15:45 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-10 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-17 17:56 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-17 18:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-21 21:42 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-17 18:55 ` Drew Adams
2019-04-21 21:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-22 0:03 ` Drew Adams
2019-04-22 1:12 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-04-22 9:39 ` Drew Adams
2019-04-18 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 18:30 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-21 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 21:37 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-22 0:06 ` Drew Adams
2019-04-22 7:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 12:59 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-22 13:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 15:19 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-21 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 21:41 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-22 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 12:58 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-06 17:00 ` Drew Adams
2018-07-06 17:20 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-06 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 22:38 ` Basil L. Contovounesios [this message]
2018-07-06 17:30 ` Paul Eggert
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