From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: C-x & (was: Introducing thread-safe Tramp) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 17:25:33 +0200 Message-ID: <878t5jwm8i.fsf_-_@gmx.de> References: <8736wa9c5s.fsf@gmx.de> <87sh44pisz.fsf@gmx.de> <87a7qbitc7.fsf@gmx.de> <878t5tdsfc.fsf@gmx.de> <83wotcpzub.fsf@gnu.org> <87bmaiuwml.fsf@gmx.de> <877el6uwio.fsf@gmx.de> <83bmaitbwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7q2w4gd.fsf@gmx.de> <838t5mt9wb.fsf@gnu.org> <87muu2w2c2.fsf@gmx.de> <83600qt8mi.fsf@gnu.org> <87in4qw1fl.fsf@gmx.de> <834lgat6fy.fsf@gnu.org> <87effevy41.fsf@gmx.de> <83zhy2rnef.fsf@gnu.org> <871sbdw389.fsf@gmx.de> <83y3dksvhy.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0uvwysw.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1533569031 3188 195.159.176.226 (6 Aug 2018 15:23:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:23:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , fgunbin@fastmail.fm, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 06 17:23:47 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fmhMI-0000ij-4u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 17:23:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34657 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fmhOO-0007pd-Pr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 11:25:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fmhOE-0007km-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 11:25:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fmhOB-0005gJ-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 11:25:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:36813) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fmhOA-0005fy-Nk; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 11:25:42 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.52.225]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MATlG-1fcCzE1gAU-00BdlI; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 17:25:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 6 Aug 2018 07:55:04 -0700 (PDT)") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Qw+WQRn1f/jNi5T5NgxHH1wCYY9pl9hgboGjbbhWUeqqrBxyVsp fM14GpMn5sJyMoDCm9t+f5uSiFAPc9LcS7+H36jlAFwQo68aLN8C3v7lctWM4Rclc19EpR/ 5rjLI7rkERKl4FKmdRVA352m31EpoGVgEzWEjFizXC6ljRoU4mDUgvFbIe/5XYoTcehSJxk 2REDx+PF+5uzqDAyZ0gjA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:PGJNNLi4uIc=:mke4ymO3ep8/E7xwBT8p3J /4UTscHOYgW8CuHWUaoavpiWInfPAsfQVkmk4ROHgdBbMsBLRl41wHF99uYI0b19SXjNjX2lu K+pcjeQNYgaIPpNA5rDa8vXcqp8k+FOm23MdIh0Bpo7vhLEXB+QYRQ1vP327LdLZfG9WionAW 5g/uEfep501/JweUDjmOPO00Rhx/1RIda6R/E6vLXLN9H6Ue8TlIvk28IRG7/a7JFpWwyt3l9 H6/2uO6RuaDgZNONX0tESxvnMoG5TLRfA+41BiiYvzxhq4MqdYzKaoO5l9QvQU9Ju/bBVz9eA kaPTMrszLeFFkcWTp50hKDN0pt63XdEa9o8lR1VDG+U/vws654oeRRf00XpGjB+0d5+/L1Fz3 oW6/4SN95OolB/7CYrwj9+3ouCqsnx6SlNyTxU2PpoFlbiWko7E8syllkYGsotWm/YNMGEYz8 WTjiNqGK8p8cOEwcnKirRzEN4fOWkp7Y8fY7HeTjJN41sJ1Ydkysq0ESJENfP4aIvlTkVHZMs dswC7N5PQHjreOVejKp+Z8fnqdwW4OpzWDsTfSkSJud3wNddDha4VBN4HdUnCRUImxaHs2pwx qNo8BYzeDms4Tkva43FYw2YewprbVUKg8rfhhBvVGRJkkd1BWDtFYGvjX6FfCE5ZXS3Knwow8 YFzu0aW2nb/wysNpcNnlAUmxATkExib34NMiLXOtil7rWSiz+Rd+L0ffMUYpzDYYh3+WFbObc NKxt2s8WA/sm1l7Z65WECXBJea1hRB9WpuOqvq1W3DB1YBJr/MGTY8J8o8C8fATho/IJWjaO X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228220 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: Hi Drew, >> This needs to be documented better in the Elisp manual, but first we >> shall agree how to call this technique. "Prefix argument" is out of the >> game. Maybe "prefix command"? Or "prefix sequence", as proposed in this >> thread? > > As Richard suggested, don't call it anything. At least do not call it > any of those things (it's not a command or a prefix key (sequence)). I'm all for an agreement. But until now I hear only how to NOT call it. I'd prefer to see a counter proposal. And of course, "C-x &" invokes a command. This is equivalent to "M-x universal-async-argument". So I don't see what's wrong with "prefix command" - it is a command which precedes another command. > We can, if you want, have a separate discussion, taking our time, to > decide whether and what to name this. Subject adapted. Best regards, Michael.