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[67.173.70.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b196sm1813819ywh.8.2019.12.03.09.35.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 03 Dec 2019 09:35:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83muc9jsri.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 03 Dec 2019 18:09:05 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b29 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243068 Archived-At: On 03 Dec 2019, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> In other words, how will the mere passage of time affect our >>willingness to change the default interactive behavior? > >By letting people try this and tell us via bug reports and other >communications channels that they'd like this to be the default. *nod* It's possible that the existence of the variable and the NEWS entry might make people more likely to consider the question in the first place, and thus more likely to express a preference that they otherwise wouldn't have had occasion to think about. On 03 Dec 2019, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Karl Fogel >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:36:28 -0600 >> >> I didn't think of the possibility of changing it in 'master' once the release branch is cut. > >We haven't yet decided to do that immediately after cutting the >branch. I'd rather let people use the option for a while before that. That's fine; I don't think it needs to be changed immediately after cutting the release. As long as we have a path for accumulating information about what the default setting should be, that's enough. It can default to the current behavior in the meantime. I'll work up a patch along the lines we've discussed and post it here for review. Best regards, -Karl