From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:44:59 +0800 Message-ID: <878siptegk.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <83zhbcg6s4.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1wng2ki.fsf@linaro.org> <83o8rrenn1.fsf@gnu.org> <87d081teju.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="78947"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , Eli Zaretskii , Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= , ulm@gentoo.org, EMACS development team To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 21 10:46:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQoXo-000KMb-Cr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 10:46:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53832 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQoXn-0006zD-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 04:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54758) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQoWj-0005bj-WE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 04:45:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQoWi-0004gB-Kq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 04:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic301-31.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.184.200]:38467) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQoWi-0004eb-3N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 04:45:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1587458706; bh=5q3yPFZX8VCGHgg47qqCC1Cwvxa7TRZrsZV09cUfFao=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=uIyEL56SwIuMMfrEm/+b6P3tHg6Uc+qBNm3TLOcr5jsndu+ResWGu1KLLkICRkSgJr5RoWmZ2gGEpK6EDHBwOWpFNEEeDhJrMnu/Q4oPLbbOCpoaamTCw+7wRZpGCThhpgvd5Nda5hD/zEYB0/y71CxGi6XrZEq3yVp13Ck48x/pg0x903rZMUZeyUggloF6ic3cr53hj5s+AwhQJ1YqE/069eTih7PcurD4HFvD9QtxG6jBrSur1gbIgQO5se0b84Lgf1XhTTx1AhrTfGarHCP9Pg4xunQN11US9dVOKSaFubbFGuX5Y3fIjapRP1pKiUd1pJJxQfB2b8ir3T9qSg== X-YMail-OSG: 560WoxMVM1kJRtL0nOC4MyN6XW5AZNY4uftf.9Hdkd5B8kFcGqT6mtLfCrZrOH3 Qf6xDlJys7bgHuzCsiaV8gOhT6WKGV2XStSP8k.YtH5zAVzCZ5NxgXMMHymErMICFiiEDCVE2pd. 5VFccvsmd3FJjwiqkIK1BctUDikPrFFIgrj5LowulmO7KdGYtvORwIjRV2vstCieyAugTLjnk1Re 2m1_chk91lsx2Laf_WajF2IE7_ssdnk7oxOj7eYnOwD8YtfLB7NC2k14a9Q.OMt2DN7n66734fBh dZnIcVu3RlTuW4QzleW77Dp4kvRm8jZvC8kCkDj4p07y_o8yfwXKWzCAJUvbiYLILj0J7lU5n1gG uunklt2XtjajRnGJr0VQ8abnqU_ZmXqos5TeqjZ7Q5pVLYWcZCOh_gNRHD5bzfM2GQuw0Qzc2Rrl _dd27hO2_5k7ZONJtzSsKI9VocmjXZxccvkGqVAMJIWDiwMrJvIzruDe5CvAh9NMkvvgkF.E3jCO uIZ0Z4NJKOBGLX_bGeEs2DBXhrc0flUim6Tw2jaycL0oPmjD0Xt8EOlXAvcx3TuwCYoRDUkYYzrI O2tcZPDKKKMPTsstF3kN7mdP68AKzhwvoqNJaLPk.wFf4yYmy4d4HCZNV9wD2xyT5.UFgvzcXpZX .JWiFIP63x330TeKf09SAWePbS7cN9dQp8lQr5220cROEQ9uFMzfLt9jvB0vV3vR3V07LRzLmF_3 Z7OQ3xw.7OEOrLf9.qHu801jseBkZFnI9SDA6tJWzPvGYlJjH5nDDso6NfWZjHiXTB4Pj9.A3Gik bUqoMf.ed3pwTReBcE5AYYSEqn0S.LSjVbwTGilepG Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:45:06 +0000 Original-Received: by smtp428.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 520a264ab4e2311f183cd72d74f0e426; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:45:02 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87d081teju.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:43:01 +0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.15739 hermes Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.6) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.200; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic301-31.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/21 04:45:06 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Received-From: 66.163.184.200 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247459 Archived-At: > Electron has freedom issues. (https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1167) Some more relevant links: https://www.mail-archive.com/gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org/msg02199.html https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28291 https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/directory-discuss/2017-12/msg00008.html