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[109.13.143.200]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c70sm2476027wme.32.2020.06.18.01.22.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 18 Jun 2020 01:22:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4967aca0-5827-1ab9-dd13-65c50b060f05@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 18 Jun 2020 00:57:42 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::436; envelope-from=kevin.legouguec@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x436.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252305 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 18.06.2020 00:50, Juri Linkov wrote: >> Actually the hardest question is to decide what keys to use >> to navigate completions in the vertical layout. It would be >> natural to use arrow keys and M-p/n, but there keys are used >> for history navigation in the minibuffer. > > I think C-n/P-n is what users would expect. See Ivy, Helm, etc. > > Arrow keys, too. As a former Ivy user who went back to icomplete and is now following this thread with a lot of attention, my vote also goes for C-n/C-p for next/previous candidate selection, and M-n/M-p for history navigation. (Actually, I wouldn't mind C-n/C-p in regular (non-vertical) icomplete; C-. is not super-ergonomic on AZERTY. I liked C-M-i, but it's been decommissioned in Emacs 27=E2=80=A6)