From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Philip K." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 19:47:59 +0200 Message-ID: <878sccac34.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87ft6m9xmy.fsf@posteo.net> <87362ldxrq.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38877"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 19:49:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kRfT8-000A1Q-3H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 19:49:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33474 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRfT7-0008UW-62 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 13:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59156) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRfS3-000801-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 13:48:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:55011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRfS0-0003Y4-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 13:48:06 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F37C16005C for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 19:48:00 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1602438480; bh=3YvfIbARuBYQcAWS/C5taHPdTpoS+w4H3SWllSjnYZI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=f2mMkOr31j4PIsHpui94v7j2SDGBfCtKvWKtbEVOdtShQPZxljTVaCMR2OlCwXpCK vueMMs1YEstN3+hNuJE81X1ZmGclyTvmNctHuUJ8WHi6uSfqdrUMkic4cLB09nVy4o 0qjmWtUnE2Nqs78G5L87bAHPe8f1Cam8BN1DyFn1rZYx+9U1l5HRkelFyFoLZMOCUH XvKEpQ2XWOg+vUYvOMKwE9HYiFs6HyZlfD7KJM3UN0PaQAbFEYhQhtjNClZmM0l78+ RggsU0QmaABq57hiuru0BP/3ZkiFK207DDyLUWCkjL9SYqSFEdTuEv+eCYIdG5CxUa ITyFrFYMbF3Wg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4C8Tmc1HSjz9rxL; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 19:48:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87362ldxrq.fsf@logand.com> (Tomas Hlavaty's message of "Sun, 11 Oct 2020 09:31:21 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/11 13:48:01 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257381 Archived-At: Tomas Hlavaty writes: > On Sat 10 Oct 2020 at 12:35, "Philip K." wrote: >> That could be mitigated with a "graceful degradation" approach, since >> most people do have javascript activated by default. > > it should be possible to fill in the survey from emacs Of course, that's what "graceful degradation" implies. If Javascript is available, it will be used to improve the user experience. If not, everything still continues working, just eg. without the interactivity that Javascript might provide. -- Philip K.