From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ASSI Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: ob-haxe Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 07:27:44 +0100 Message-ID: <878s8qu5cv.fsf@Otto.invalid> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36902"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: ian martins , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 18 07:28:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l1O22-0009TI-3v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 07:28:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l1O21-0007p4-4A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 01:28:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60034) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l1O1I-0007Oa-6l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 01:28:08 -0500 Original-Received: from smtpout2.vodafonemail.de ([145.253.239.133]:36410) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l1O1F-0002Ct-0t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 01:28:07 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.vodafone.de (unknown [10.2.0.35]) by smtpout2.vodafonemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF04126307; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 07:27:58 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nexgo.de; s=vfde-smtpout-mb-15sep; t=1610951278; bh=ZpNHJqS02kfYG3tYtZEWY3Kdo7azCt3F6C/MTTuYmIM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=j4zETwjkPwre8zxykRHht+oPB3JzeqVHsxoVuJVFxEjQNU1Gu0NbFh1lgkVy4X+wi bRU/E0UjyTI/2WFuoLuvVk7pn5DfUkYs/uW3mxnw2JO8LatELr4Yla/oalPVZVDEeZ JBCkAX3i9mzaOPccTECHLDK0z9c1fkwG65WXmutY= Original-Received: from Otto (p54a0ca05.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.160.202.5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.vodafone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41700141088; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 06:27:54 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 17 Jan 2021 17:41:52 -0500") X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate: clean X-purgate-size: 1646 X-purgate-ID: 155817::1610951278-0000239E-F3CAD2A9/0/0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=145.253.239.133; envelope-from=Stromeko@nexgo.de; helo=smtpout2.vodafonemail.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263140 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > I'd be happy to do that, but just to be sure, I'd like to understand > something first. AFAICT, all other `ob-.el` files are currently > bundled with Org. They aren't, there's quite a bunch of them that aren't properly inside Org and of those that are, just a selected set is in Org core (only those should be in Emacs by default). The reasons are diverse, but for a package to considered for core it must have copyright assigned to FSF, suppport the complete feature set as far as the underlying language or interpreter allows for it (i.e. session mode) and have an active maintainer (Bastien or Nicolas can give you the "official" line on that). Secondary considerations are how common the language supported really is and what it takes to set up an environment where you can actually run tests. > Personally, I'd tend to consider that the > language-specific info for org-babel should belong with the major mode > (just like the language-specific support for indentation, highlighting, > flymake, imenu, etc.. belong to it). > [ Side note: I'm not sufficiently familiar with org-babel to know if > bundling the info with the major mode is currently technically > realistic. ] Let's put it this way: I haven't seen any major mode that does that so far. I think the idea merits consideration, but as long as nobody tries we don't really know what the pitfalls are. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Waldorf MIDI Implementation & additional documentation: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfDocs