From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Concern about new binding. Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 13:08:12 +0100 Message-ID: <878s81qtzn.fsf@igel.home> References: <87zh0mmr54.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2g5smya.fsf@gmail.com> <4FF55FBF-573D-4A70-B3FC-682CA25B7ECB@gnu.org> <83lfc53whk.fsf@gnu.org> <20210203180142.seu6o3i6u7jhkyrh@Ergus> <83eehx3to5.fsf@gnu.org> <20210203221628.xgvvxjvh56gyswba@Ergus> <20210204070033.pm4ido4hq7a6twif@Ergus> <83sg6brhyg.fsf@gnu.org> <5588fb25805d486be704@heytings.org> <878s82esdi.fsf@fastmail.fm> <5588fb258085d00c0e72@heytings.org> <87blcy2d65.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2010"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 06 13:09:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l8MPS-0000Pn-Le for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 13:09:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49138 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8MPR-00066t-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 07:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8MNx-0005RE-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 07:08:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1]:42996) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8MNv-0006Zj-BJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 07:08:21 -0500 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DXrf606c3z1rxMB; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:08:13 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DXrf55mDwz1tYV6; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:08:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KjU60t8sg3OW; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:08:13 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: PJTYjWTP1D4u5Y7Cin10/8USMhlcOWNSsTb6RJL2+WRuloKAv0j6ZtvbowteiiQB Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-189-2.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.189.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:08:13 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B7282C31B6; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:08:12 +0100 (CET) X-Yow: .. My pants just went on a wild rampage through a Long Island Bowling Alley!! In-Reply-To: <87blcy2d65.fsf@fastmail.fm> (Joost Kremers's message of "Sat, 06 Feb 2021 02:32:49 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1; envelope-from=whitebox@nefkom.net; helo=mail-out.m-online.net X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264056 Archived-At: On Feb 06 2021, Joost Kremers wrote: > To an extent, this is just my personal opinion, but I think there are technical > reason as well. Firstly, note that `use-package` makes it possible to delay > loading a package until it's first used. That would be moot when creating > bindings depends on loading a package. In order to install the global bindings, > the package would have to be loaded upon startup. If you'd want to lazy-load a > package, you'd have to bind the keys explicitly anyway. Typically, such global bindings are installed in the autoload file. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."