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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266163 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 12:35:11 -0800, chad said: chad> I can't help but notice that Wayland offers a potential "solution" by chad> simply not supporting the underlying functionality that triggers the chad> problem. In terms of "kicking the can down the road", the basic Wayland chad> approach is "We're making something that you might use as a can. We do not chad> promise that 'kicking' will apply to it, and explicitly disclaim any chad> concept of 'road'." They're doing this to keep the problem more tractable; chad> the emacs/gtk bug is one example of the sort of thing that they're chad> explicitly labelling "Somebody Else's Problem". For Wayland you can use waypipe to forward to a different display. Robert --