From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:55:17 +0100 Message-ID: <878s6fgdzu.fsf@gnus.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg4n9jei.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2efhx3e.fsf@gnus.org> <838s6f9g5d.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2efgg3w.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2817"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 20:56:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQfI-0000cX-5J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:56:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55056 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQfH-0005WE-4s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:56:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54252) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQe6-0004Re-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:55:26 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:36278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQe4-0003dL-9r; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:55:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Be6xOM+V9PcduWviSB/tF8UFrsq0jeDOAiCPb/qFuQw=; b=r3ypZOf9RYU9y6BHiD6A+fMlH6 d6GD4pR34UA1yGgtdaFR+0YLGpdsMv1mpRKHemppXrYNqy9bMpX2500ibpO31siL4M7yUn+P1UDFQ uhtnuqvpYB+maezrE2wY4NKmVBGA93L5n5BlwKm6i7etVjaUhA9GSKOtSRXUbcJtJSiY=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQdy-0001e5-NW; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:55:21 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUCAQIcFiFGNUGx hnv///8kfBkOAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UDFhMZLA83itAAAAGrSURBVDjLjVMLjsQg CAV7AZALKFzAyv3vtmBnpp/ZTZakNfJ7PECAJQgESPFHBiaOG1TtRVWrctean3ZVbuHceqmtV1BK h4br7JGkhVNE1HBMf+U4S0YQUmRmDowEC6wDthL8LtiB94eOCXpkgvg/nKE4UAn87zwTDsD/Cf6l 1V8NXlpm/jKaL9byYMBhkAwo+DTInHmA3A2FxFftQfAiBN5kMWvyaIaD9MDWtiIu/cVtGsG2i887 USyDobq6X8uVdB5UA55wXJDZWSb1w/ksFxUmyl7bKrTOj2ELRbNYj1RVryfC7NLNaU3NhpyF7s2q elsR1uxsax+utL0M0bEXO7Wpn+K35MFH93bbNx8vutXszaNMG9o+lc9zgCT7W9+L3AabF8wV3IsT PCTmrYDu7aLjXLuYt1X3ewRlCRAD8dlvakK1zhb+952SeG6uYZh6n7eWod5jr/YF8O4u5g5GhM0F jHKuT8w/8x+92OxMF6MI/RFQ7VIAenGXRY3TA/IlMxPaytTjGqcqHQas3v1gHHGTLgDePOe6CI5L RUtiY6Msnw+1N/RlOBL9ANSoPGHnxH7sAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAzLTIyVDE5 OjI1OjQ0KzAwOjAwP6SCzQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMy0yMlQxOToyNTo0NCsw MDowME75OnEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Tuxedomoon's _Suite En Sous-Sol-Time To Lose-Short Stories_: "Time To Lose" In-Reply-To: <87y2efgg3w.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:09:39 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266809 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Gregory, I don't think there's much point in doing this experiment -- > the pushback is already substantial, so I think we have the data we need > already. The tenor of discussion in this thread has been shocking, though, with people ascribing nefarious motivations to Gregory's suggestion. Please stop doing this -- it makes this mailing list distinctly unfriendly. People should be free to make suggestions without being sniped at. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no