From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Simple isearch concerns Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 00:11:48 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <878s4muwdn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <20210403001539.x4rb55dvh46rmhb3.ref@Ergus> <87wnsurdr7.fsf@gmail.com> <87fszij6to.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87v98asulc.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmyimiwd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87bla11u5q.fsf@gmail.com> <87lf937hgk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2d1ksga.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87r1it7zfw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v98466it.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87bl9wcksv.fsf@gmail.com> <87tunnzqci.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87bl9tmzun.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2cwhiti.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h7jk75b7.fsf@gmail.com> <87k0ofyd4p.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <875yzwq4x7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <875yzumpur.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87v97tcyx5.fsf@gmail.com> <87k0o7n2kk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37852"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , Ergus , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , Gregory Heytings , Manuel Uberti , Augusto Stoffel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 10 23:32:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgDVR-0009gt-In for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 23:32:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56738 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgDVQ-0003ib-Kq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 17:32:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgDSG-0008Pu-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 17:28:44 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:55287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgDSE-0005Zr-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2021 17:28:44 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.102.166 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-102-166.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.166]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA66F1BF206; Mon, 10 May 2021 21:28:37 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 9 May 2021 19:53:36 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.201; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269135 Archived-At: > Apologies for not following this thread. It seems to be > quite wide in its scope (but I could easily just be > misunderstanding). > > Is there really a focus on somehow changing just `M-e' > (edit the search pattern, with searching suspended while > doing that)? Somehow I've gotten the impression that > much more seems to be under discussion (i.e., at stake). > > What really is the _concrete problem_ that you're trying > to solve, for which you think (IIUC) that Isearch should > use the minibuffer (aside from the current uses it makes > of the minibuffer, which are really outside searching)? When you type 'C-f' in a web browser, it activates the "minibuffer". Then you can type a search string. As soon as you type a character in the minibuffer, it immediately updates the search state in the original window. You can edit the search string while the minibuffer is active, and the search results are updated immediately. Also each browser window has own search. There are no plans to change the current default isearch behavior, but still users might want to have an option to have a search like in browsers.