From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tick Reduction Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 21:30:42 +0100 Message-ID: <878rxhjlot.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bl2hyzca.fsf@gnus.org> <8735nszpdv.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvswrp8.fsf@gnus.org> <834k88woaj.fsf@gnu.org> <878rxkv980.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvpmtl8.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmqtqvj5.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl2dmnfa.fsf@gnus.org> <83mtlxquh7.fsf@gnu.org> <877dd1mlsd.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0h1qss5.fsf@gnu.org> <8735npmkm5.fsf@gnus.org> <83h7c5qpag.fsf@gnu.org> <87czmtl2uv.fsf@gnus.org> <83fsrpqog1.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnl1jnfa.fsf@gnus.org> <83czmtqnl7.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7c5jmbg.fsf@gnus.org> <838rxhqmqv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26633"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 21 21:31:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1motUr-0006kb-Uy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 21:31:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49798 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1motUq-0004Rs-3w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:31:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1motUA-0003hG-MT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:30:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=46904 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1motU8-0006lM-O3; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:30:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=MdwNHwqLMxFMcxrEaoTIHKmWp9wehaOR66pjMFxXQTw=; b=kDinvN2/7gfG2LQtEwIwZk1bV9 EtC1f0vNsEdrPDAZl0ehwUeoEJS35oxEO3DvV8l/7aNHiEfvew3l3NJZ7dyxYxEG4m9w5Tksz7U2Z jip8H4D7eIKWHq7taRTt7Cyht53Sn9IPJE3UOOtRiJwKFW/2GFsulm8C/woNwb3Aso5A=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1motU3-0000RX-38; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 21:30:45 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEUxKShaVU4ODA4i HBsnIB5QRTO6oU/42Tru1Fnz5Y+De2Gfnpn+40js7ev////CHx8KAAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+ULFRQXAmroWDsAAAEESURBVDjLY2BkUjJGABcGBobQ0FAGBiYGBiUlZZCQkZISmOXiAJRj YHFiMAZzwcIQKROQjIsTA4hnrIQEjE1cgAAigQqAxmGXADnGBKsESMYIq4QyLgklnBLKuCSUcEoo kyyhREUJJSQJ1bQ0YWwSqhUzZ84KwiIhAZSYNhFTQnF6eeeMzmlOGBLax89UzJrVGIwh4VlTc2LG RAZBDAnOmrZ0tqUMUVgkWjNSWRmiMSQ0O5a1nRBgkca0vEs8/cwx0dkYEgrT2nrOnDlzEUNCeWUF ULzyEqYOqTlnzpTPDcKQUJLe3dExF24SkoTi3rt372ILRCXF1bsQ4krERNSoBLUlGABCccGKy3VD ugAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0xMS0yMVQyMDoyMzowMiswMDowMBbPbzwAAAAldEVY dGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTEtMjFUMjA6MjM6MDIrMDA6MDBnkteAAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: James Figurine's _James & David Figurine_: "The Adventures of James Figurine" In-Reply-To: <838rxhqmqv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 21 Nov 2021 22:26:00 +0200") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279889 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes, and I suggest to change that. Each field will start at the same > horizontal position. A field that doesn't fit in its allotted cell > will be truncated. That'd be a massive change in how mode lines are displayed, and how people can customise them. >> So I don't see how we could practically define a fixed-width field mode >> line: The mode line formats are pretty different between modes and users >> and how you combine different things. > > Let's consider the standard mode line before we consider extensions. > We can talk about extensions later. I don't consider normal mode line customisations to be extensions. The mode line formatting is a basic thing that's gone back to when Emacs was created, and we can't ditch that. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no