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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can we give Eli a break, please?  [ Was: Re: Development Speed ]
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 18:07:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rwcy3ey.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: YcNVm26TFO/eR9dF@ACM

Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> Your last post comes over as one big moan.  You moan about perfectly
> valid decisions, some of which didn't turn out optimally.  You moan about
> perfectly valid decisions, full stop.

That's your opinion. It's understandable that you talk about "perfectly
valid decisions", since you were strongly vocal when those decisions
were made and had a significant impact on them. Which is fine.

> The main point of my post is that Eli is having to deal with a lot of
> negative posting at the moment,

I'm pretty sure that Eli:

1. knows how much I appreciate his work.

2. is quite capable of speaking for himself.

3. any observation on my messages is not addressed to him personally,
   but to the project as a whole, since a long time before he was the
   maintainer. BTW, I energetically lobbied for using bzr over git at
   the time and thought that debbugs were better than nothing. I was as
   wrong as the wrongest (non-)participant on those discussions.

> We're approaching what is in large swathes of the world the "season of
> goodwill".

I'll refrain from expressing my opinion about the concept of seasonal
goodwill.

Finally, I will say that you are not the only one who feels entitled to
moan and rant on emacs-devel :-)




  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-22 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-21 10:52 Development Speed xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-21 11:05 ` Po Lu
2021-12-21 11:25   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-21 11:37     ` Po Lu
2021-12-21 14:47       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-22  0:56         ` Po Lu
2021-12-22  1:05           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-21 12:05     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-21 12:20       ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-12-21 14:14       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-21 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22  4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-22 10:09   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-22 10:22     ` Po Lu
2021-12-22 10:38       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-22 10:45         ` Po Lu
2021-12-22 13:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23  3:43         ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-23  9:50           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23 10:37             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 10:52               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23 10:54               ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-24  4:13               ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-24  4:13             ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-22 14:21       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-23  1:00         ` Po Lu
2021-12-23  1:05           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-23  1:07             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23  2:18               ` dick
2021-12-23  6:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 10:46               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-23 12:54                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 13:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 15:51       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-22 16:43         ` Can we give Eli a break, please? [ Was: Re: Development Speed ] Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-22 17:07           ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2021-12-22 17:12           ` dick
2021-12-22 17:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 17:12         ` Development Speed Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 18:49           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23  3:43     ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-23 10:13       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23 10:35         ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 10:47           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23 10:50             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 10:59               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23 11:05                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 11:16                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24  4:13           ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-24  4:13         ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-23 10:23       ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-24  4:13         ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-22 14:41   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-12-22 17:52 Can we give Eli a break, please? [ Was: Re: Development Speed ] xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-22 18:10 xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.

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