From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Exposing buffer text modifications to Lisp
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 11:58:50 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rpqsm4l.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YrCFVG+g1/dOsqPI@ACM>
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 19:58:31 +0800, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> [ .... ]
>
>> > If you already have a workaround for marker-related problems, then why
>> > do you need to hook into insertion and deletion on the lowest level?
>
>> Because the workaround relies on before/after-change-functions that may
>> be suppressed by bad third-party code.
>
> Why is that your (or our) problem? Code which isn't the major mode
> masking out the change functions is just invalid code. Can't you just
> document somewhere that before/after-change-functions are an essential
> part of Org Mode, and that messing around with them will lead to
> unpredictable results?
It is indeed possible. However, this particular issue can cause data
loss in user files. Which I'd prefer to avoid at all costs.
Best,
Ihor
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-21 3:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-19 1:35 Tree-sitter integration on feature/tree-sitter Kiong-Ge Liau
2022-05-20 2:01 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-16 19:03 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-16 19:25 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-17 1:11 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-17 14:22 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-17 1:24 ` Po Lu
2022-06-18 0:09 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-17 2:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-17 2:25 ` Lower-level change hook immune to with-silent-modifications Yuan Fu
2022-06-17 2:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-17 5:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-17 10:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-17 11:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-17 5:23 ` Tree-sitter integration on feature/tree-sitter Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-17 10:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-17 11:42 ` Exposing buffer text modifications to Lisp (was: Tree-sitter integration on feature/tree-sitter) Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 5:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 7:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 8:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18 8:47 ` Exposing buffer text modifications to Lisp Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-20 11:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-20 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-20 14:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-21 3:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-21 4:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-21 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 4:47 ` Optimizing performance of buffer markers (was: Exposing buffer text modifications to Lisp) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-25 8:29 ` Optimizing performance of buffer markers Stefan Monnier
2022-06-25 8:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 9:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-25 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 9:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-25 9:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-25 9:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-26 10:32 ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-22 15:45 ` Exposing buffer text modifications to Lisp Basil L. Contovounesios
2022-06-22 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 4:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-25 5:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-29 12:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-20 14:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-21 3:58 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-06-17 6:15 ` Tree-sitter integration on feature/tree-sitter Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-17 7:17 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-17 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 0:14 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-18 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 8:25 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-18 8:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 20:07 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-19 5:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-20 3:00 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-20 11:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-20 20:01 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-21 2:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-21 4:39 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-21 10:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-22 0:34 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-17 11:06 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-06-18 0:28 ` Yuan Fu
2022-06-18 20:57 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
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