From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a "quick-help" menu Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 17:53:07 +0000 Message-ID: <878rmgd0xo.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87v8pn4968.fsf@posteo.net> <87h7156lg5.fsf@gnus.org> <878rmhdkc9.fsf@posteo.net> <25383.20314.578335.768961@orion.rgrjr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5042"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bob Rogers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 18 19:54:25 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oZyUr-00018F-3h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:54:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50158 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZyUp-0004uU-EP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 13:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZyTm-0003qu-FU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 13:53:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:35931) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZyTk-0007rS-Kq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 13:53:18 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67551240027 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:53:12 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1663523592; bh=L7mEvdQ8uq7gLnkrH/q34ihiIMEPE+AUfh68+gwvWVI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=VcRTXYLN3Cr8BiDGTLBCuTuYGvDcameprelHLFyXFcPsJF1wvdrSD3OojdioQmFxj EIlPvy8CjO7Rf/DAhTXeF9I7kvh1V9uwms7yPIscPnEABHR+r7UhxEFg+McPNdcRW4 hW2avdOA0xXKRgQHTWuXRF7wvUiHvDhI2Ccwri9d1RrfSGfePMsDsYYIdVQfoE1+YT dsiwm5tat49HrihvjsI7nWuUY8oqX1eNai0RZsWdePCNSzSEQhiS7DzO/tdyIIFmiB ChDQmKIqk0icqmyO1y7NyxZ1DDinWfWqv9TNRvLOjXUHE+1Cn353eKRDz8976Tt3h2 h0hCD0cEr5ENg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4MVwQG4JXcz9rxL; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:53:07 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <25383.20314.578335.768961@orion.rgrjr.com> (Bob Rogers's message of "Sun, 18 Sep 2022 10:03:22 -0700") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295592 Archived-At: Bob Rogers writes: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 10:53:58 +0000 > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > Philip Kaludercic writes: > > > >> There is a fork of mg (MicroEmacs)[0] that binds C-h q to a command that > >> pops up a buffer with these contents: > > > > I think having a "cheat sheet" like this would be useful. > > Calling it a "cheat sheet" sounds like a good idea. I've added > `cheat-sheet' as an alias: > > A quick Web search for "emacs cheat sheet" turns up the "GNU Emacs > Reference Card" as the first hit -- followed by a bunch of others. And > it occurs to me that, for a real newbie, a cheat sheet in a browser > window might be easier to work with than one within emacs itself. I might just be too young and lack the concentration that pre-gen-z people had that reference card always appeared too overwhelming for me. I guess my suggestion isn't much better, it is the same thing just less of it... > -- Bob Rogers > http://www.rgrjr.com/ > > [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/refcards/pdf/refcard.pdf