From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Augusto Stoffel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Math symbols Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 09:45:35 +0200 Message-ID: <878rm9w6zk.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87edw1gafj.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmflkhb3.fsf@igel.home> <87a66pg93w.fsf@gmail.com> <83zgepnw62.fsf@gnu.org> <87a66pnuqt.fsf@gmail.com> <83o7v5nsk5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23796"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, schwab@linux-m68k.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 24 09:46:48 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1obzs7-00062k-Jf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 09:46:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57474 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obzs6-0004rp-KG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 03:46:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obzr3-0003tG-8z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 03:45:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-x52e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52e]:34803) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obzr1-0001Np-PL; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 03:45:41 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id z2so2891185edi.1; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 00:45:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=HKLR58n3Dw5Wv/h2U7y1/c5jKFfhgFoqn7UCbkbJdd4=; b=bnIvcOWI+uMFpj8xVr38JZOKI64nkyEePr/Lv5VaD/wzcp4RFdZvfmchneoEr+6eht c399+IWGoeyfycGtDHAL5Ch5+pe60xqk4UN0/2cEPVFs2p543S8V6h07w+537Xvk9efi OZXDMB/D38+1pmIyNW4X0J/zEB7FK73R0+B6l/RVVPRlQoaFTWMZE0DkvGg4i+9fdiP0 c3su3iE1BM124MzOwX724fysYfHY+NUITCrWpXHFTd54tiQoLjZDzRvxqESKRBofrscg Cr+cxJvkBiOXbWa9ZpjhgJTuMBmCevwhpgrUbEvn4QO6cB4ZzmDi3h8QmXY3HYN2XjGs QQ2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date; bh=HKLR58n3Dw5Wv/h2U7y1/c5jKFfhgFoqn7UCbkbJdd4=; b=tq5I1g1MqcwensdXm/oqmhmgNYuaxPPTFiX3CwZwKtZwqSFpzlNUHw4aEVFbgnrV+H oXve1WPKg26dg3Jyji6C0OtclorKmvXP6IV4V+8nsHheHRkF6apgiGgrJVGW5d8s26MO XKRVmktW8SwMZhDa0Ayyq2fuUGKwhhyp4V0ClVK9v+lrL+SYl41gT23VZOKFnLtlylI2 p5L2fLuBu8pBbVGZVUaek/xtqNFzsp3PDD3pqj+11J5IhEJCw7xugE3OmtSUtYK4Tu7K YZK9CMAJe+bM8EzKZGM9GcujhjzWEYbZlkN8yOa5hfclFA8ulWMzmyPbQzA80pcwygLG WAdw== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3g+M7Tdg1tGywbVRZxKSaOgTY1DEAKOfQf1+TpoEb9KXEdjA3W aaYZ5JQh1l4ZneKLT+ZyxmTYfsmrNsY96w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM53nxjphbDGTSHz698N0sypHvtwpAhDjSiD728vbR2ovv24hdhGnO0q2oyU9FGZ7eZFa0EcEg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:3603:b0:451:fdda:dddd with SMTP id el3-20020a056402360300b00451fddaddddmr11857750edb.81.1664005537457; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 00:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ars3 ([2a02:8109:8ac0:56d0::8510]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d24-20020a056402001800b004511957d075sm6910136edu.80.2022.09.24.00.45.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 24 Sep 2022 00:45:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83o7v5nsk5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 24 Sep 2022 10:24:26 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52e; envelope-from=arstoffel@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296124 Archived-At: On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 at 10:24, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Augusto Stoffel >> Cc: Stefan Monnier , schwab@linux-m68k.org, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 08:37:14 +0200 >>=20 >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 at 09:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>=20 >> >> From: Stefan Monnier >> >> Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 16:56:49 -0400 >> >>=20 >> >> > Yes, but it's pretty incomplete. It also has some translations that >> >> > interfere with normal typing, such as ^1 =E2=86=92 =C2=B9. >> >>=20 >> >> Indeed, e.g. I use a tweaked version: >> > >> > Why not add a variant input method to latin-ltx.el, so everyone could >> > enjoy that? >>=20 >> Everyone can enjoy ELPA packages, right? > > Yes. But then what was your original proposal and questions about? > You said there: > >> I was wondering about the next coolest thing, math symbols. Would >> it make sense to make their TeX names baked into Emacs, next to all >> other information show in `describe-char? > > Was this also about adding something to ELPA? I just assumed that > "baked into Emacs" means to have something in core. I meant that I see two mutually exclusive possibilities: A. Add my package to ELPA. B. Make the symbols names built into Emacs somehow. In case B my package becomes irrelevant because there will be better ways to implement its functionality in Emacs directly.