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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297950 Archived-At: Rob Browning writes: > Right now, on that front, we just wanted to explain the situation and > determine what the expectations are. i.e. if we hit trouble there, from > the upstream perspective are we in "don't do that then" territory, or > have we found something that might warrant attention? The latter, definitely.