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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298829 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> FWIW, I suspect that your `git blame` will give the same answer as the >>> corresponding `git log` (it will probably end up using the same code >>> under the hood), but I don't understand what you mean above. I think >>> `git log` would accept the exact same `-L` as you use for `git blame` >>> and will deal with "the issue that the Version header might move" in the >>> exact same way. >> >> Well apparently not, but I am not entirely sure what the issue was. If >> you want to, I could take a better look at it and figure out if I missed >> something. > > Not worth it. As I said, I think it'll give the same info anyway. > >>> I find this part of VC beyond repair: AFAICT the notion of >>> "tag/snapshot/..." has been defined "on the fly" with a narrow view of >>> what was needed for one particular situation at a particular time. >>> >>> It's probably worth "throwing it out" (well, keeping it on life support) >>> and introducing a whole new set of operations based on a design that >>> tries to accommodate all the various related notions out there. >> >> I agree, but that issue goes beyond the proposal of feature/package+vc. > > No doubt :-) OK, I've merged master into feature/package+vc, resolving all conflicts and would be prepared to merge feature/package+vc if there are no further objections.