From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>,
spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Indentation and gc
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 13:31:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rg3wh2f.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ilf7wi48.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> With the main risk being that we could go OOM, could Emacs evaluate the
>> available memory on the system on systems that support that check?
>
> It can, but what would you want to do with that value?
>
> We cannot use it as the threshold, for the reasons I explained
> earlier. We could use some fraction of it, but what fraction? The
> answer depends on what other programs routinely run on that system.
> For example, if the user is likely to run another full-fledged session
> of Emacs (some people actually do that, e.g., to run Gnus in a
> separate process), then using 1/2 of the amount of VM as the threshold
> is out of the question, right? And there are memory-hogging programs
> out there which use much more than Emacs does.
What is the smallest practical free RAM available to Emacs on low-end systems?
We can take that value and then use 800kb/min free RAM in the wild and
the base threshold. On system with larger RAM the threshold will scale.
As a speculation, let's assume that the minimal sane memory we can
encounter is 128Mb. Then, 800kb correspond to ~0.7% RAM.
For systems with a lot of RAM, Say 128Gb, 0.7% corresponds to 890Mb.
Probably a bit much and will cause memory fragmentation
What about the default being:
(pcase (* (car (memory-info)) ; in kb
1000)
(`nil 800000) ; 800kb, old default
(ram
(let ((scaled-threshold
(* 0.7e-2 ; 800kb/128Mb for low-end systems.
ram)))
(min
(* 100 1000 1000) ; upper limit to avoid fragmentation
scaled-threshold))))
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2023-03-10 11:07 ` Indentation and gc Ergus
2023-03-10 14:36 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-10 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 19:23 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-11 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 6:55 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-11 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 12:34 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-11 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:31 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-03-11 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-12 14:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-12 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-12 15:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-12 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 15:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 15:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 18:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-14 12:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-15 10:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-15 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-15 12:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-15 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-16 10:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-06 9:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-08 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 8:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-08 10:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 17:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-14 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 18:14 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-14 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-14 15:19 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-11 16:19 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-12 13:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-12 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-12 14:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-12 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-12 17:15 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-12 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 15:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 15:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 16:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-14 12:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-14 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-15 10:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-14 13:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 10:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 11:17 ` Ergus
2023-03-11 11:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 12:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 12:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 12:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 13:01 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-11 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 14:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 14:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 15:52 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-11 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 17:10 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-11 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 18:35 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-03-11 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 12:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-13 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-14 14:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-14 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-14 15:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-14 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 10:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-16 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 11:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-16 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-21 10:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-21 11:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:00 ` Po Lu
2023-03-11 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-11 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 21:30 ` Ergus
2023-03-11 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-21 7:11 ` Jean Louis
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