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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Tobias Bading <tbading@web.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496)
Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 19:00:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878re3kppb.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4920048a-aded-3588-50d2-4bea3c0c096b@web.de> (Tobias Bading's message of "Fri, 5 May 2023 12:40:37 +0200")

Tobias Bading <tbading@web.de> writes:

> Oh god, what have I done? XD
>
> But holding back isn’t one of my strong suites, so here goes nothin’…
>
> The X Window System may have introduced and/or (re)used certain terms, like
> “normal” and “iconic” for different states of top-level windows, but that
> was ages ago. That the term “iconic” was chosen is very unfortunate IMHO.
> It contains the word “icon” and thus suggests/implies that a currently
> invisible window is represented by some icon somewhere. Window managers like
> mwm may have chosen to actually represent invisible windows this way back
> then.

And yet, on my GNOME 3 desktop, iconified windows _are_ still
represented by an icon placed within the dash area in the overview
panel.  ``Iconification'' is simply the more accurate term: there is
nothing minimal about the huge previews displayed in the overview area,
but the previews do correspond to icons.

Not that I like GNOME's new design.  I think it's horrible.

Anyway, I don't object to explaining what we call ``minimized'', as long
as it is confined to some short introductory text in the manual.  But we
should never use the term ``minimized'' ourselves.

> Today, a lot of free software desktop environments, window systems,
> window managers etc are available. Some may present invisible windows
> as icons, others as buttons in window lists, a thumbnail in a dock, or

A thumbnail, or a button containing an icon, is not/does not contain an
icon?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-05 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-03 18:40 icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496) Tobias Bading
2023-05-03 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-03 19:10   ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-04  0:12 ` Po Lu
2023-05-04  4:03   ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-04  4:38     ` Po Lu
2023-05-04  4:46       ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-04  4:59         ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-04 14:51       ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-05-04 16:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 16:37           ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-05-04 17:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  0:15         ` Po Lu
2023-05-05  1:02           ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-05-05  4:44             ` tomas
2023-05-05  5:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  7:28                 ` tomas
2023-05-05 10:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  5:24             ` Po Lu
2023-05-05  5:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 10:40 ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-05 11:00   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 11:00   ` Po Lu [this message]
2023-05-05 11:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 12:29       ` Po Lu
2023-05-05 13:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 23:52           ` Po Lu
2023-05-06  6:27             ` Eli Zaretskii

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