From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:38:16 +0800 Message-ID: <878rcifvaf.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <87fs6reyn0.fsf@yahoo.com> <83a5wysjbf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30865"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: yandros@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 17 08:38:59 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPaM-0007mK-Lo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 08:38:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPZx-00050j-BD; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:38:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPZv-00050b-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:38:31 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic303-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.188.146]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAPZt-000812-U0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 02:38:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1686983908; bh=48K2/bMiwRVQv1MouNxUZvmuePb0vRMZeMfSKUBxJT0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=Sl8EPJc3RTiIvRneXWCALTx7v447lHMB9AIspdo1RRwBtTNeBlQD5W2IWQtjQWuiej2VR3ynH8ZMEzXRO5wbjtfvOpPggTmRAf0YmOjMDZuWvM79ZMYjGWzdNASRfQa+KiyovWDCF3apqq/eVY136YreXQiviw5dA45Ki+XnlsT3AC4rSDKOu0nGCEUNGxYBl9Qq6SbaUqSNnZuKvf7/UoWJfsqt5PICV2juc/eS3GnZPjT76Qy/sNOdwhUoF3qYvAmCvFcoZKFGw9/TySgbB4Lz1eQDnIWvDkXbWDZiNG50AiNSwefK09/lSWGnMqlEe0vat+fvp7sJUcnNeSgjpA== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1686983908; bh=o+FKns27MB6uQnfm0CvVPZxIlT0ouiEjBri0tlKj1Wr=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=piP9lRfyJRh/gPSJXHKX0aLIx6UanrQZoJ4puZkNgSmtZlk0i41RLz13Ai0vEc4bBjzh5ih2QqgkYk+ADSFnUg0HuHsbH7i8+Pfg02Q69i/e0j1BTrfk8rwRDA0N7MPWB4VElXRLL2ladVQrLYyL8nLLPB64Rb8UyUc/wor11Ec2j4HiKhgfjUvs+AN81FFk2+//oZcVf9id/bRklGpXFU8mXxIPOAIlz+IzqjrbyQke/y6ofB7/c82EB9xJMcUwNH88r0ly2NQJiAZcHGTobvMlEihBLeqdhS+ouGjN1qw1yTWfI9nMB00m0HNxjUykwnhZDcAJrKIYcuZj74NWSQ== X-YMail-OSG: C5jQR7UVM1l1ASYcRa2mjFla51lIqrpeh9W4L6zoWBAGa4mSYjUS3LXxmUrPmIW wWIBeN4vimJP9Yhn3iIzJBBGy9jB31ExI5uR7XKIbQgT9XgIyyQdJ9.KiPUxH5KNRqeuvzSyhzOr el.9NGv3MKYEPrkh_78U5UrUaBBI8Qr91GF5aVl26jJ4oBKl.xrlUSEc11s8mI8TpDEiWfGJbwV9 awUnigtZ.yM2FVpa.T_2X.LaMYrEo55W0NkZxDhW5HFYMpKCiZ1k13ty1hMRxm5x3szO34GaTA0b G4qUM7_JKe7J9DbeyZy4KeSyvhTnbBAPvkDbA47sld7bv.2QWZianrNQrIZZCvzRFa7vbp8i5NAD sj2DRHSwGHFCZ8cppUusi2R2X_Tjung71TERezYOU5ke4JPj_WgZ8XbuQT_W7Y3_7G42eKRMwRvz EPJEXqZwB0X43OBKnuQs_oAa_f7NDIvF8BXyT7d_fjvuH2oZdnN5VsFRGRkHLOdABJFARJPv9Z1n nS0XI6VoM_.NjyB5tZWvHw76lT8Dox67Z0vgiTlJ3hKwHVTooYALttmDjgAi.wjqN_5wZqtujdcS 3_2d0hxbuAcTdqvHAMdTeRCG4Gd9_V4_1w8PO31l6yGSKp_djY.oMMvFPQ759w15wChFwN4ajfje SxNjKyscT1MCeuJlQDWigEJW1RQmSY27JvLsJTVy1U4W72MFvV_9qtUG9p1JS6xHFNQECUx_3JXt 2yBXHlESPdi2GkAUjm6W8754RE45tiO7n8HxOIU1F3QHMcnxIcb1dQpnAjuLRddLME3ZYr3cT5jz fQgUVom2MJwzz0MMIH69duqM494pj1AcrO_YcjdM19 X-Sonic-MF: X-Sonic-ID: d48112bb-6460-4fd5-ad94-94064649c013 Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 06:38:28 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--production-sg3-748897c457-drfql (Yahoo Inc. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306856 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > From my POV, adding a significant new port for a widely-used platform, > without a commitment to keep that port working for the observable > future, makes no sense whatsoever. That's exactly what we're doing with all the ports to widely-used proprietary systems: MS Windows, Mac OS, USG Unix, etc. We don't commit to keeping them working, only to keep them working to the extent that their users do the same. > It's a decision to commit our scarce resources when we know in advance > that those resources will be wasted on code with no future. The resources being committed are mine alone. And how do we know that the code has no future?