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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 16d0b96c65bac8bbc7372fe9a6dfd9e8; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 01:17:18 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (David Masterson's message of "Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:47:05 -0700") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21557 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.187.147; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic316-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307067 Archived-At: David Masterson writes: > I'm not a developer of Emacs -- I've kibitzed around in it off and on > for 40+ years. In the 80s, there was reliance on email/news for comms > (there wasn't much else available). It worked good, but things got > misplaced once in awhile because of the disconnect between email & news. I'm sure the proper fix is for the FSF to fix the news to mail gateways between the various lists and GNUsenet.